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User	silent_death12 | 2006-07-27 |
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Message	maybe people are just starting to see how much life truely sucks at a younger age, *grabs gun from tox and follows her lead* =)

User	Toxic_Rayne | 2006-07-20 |
Subject	untitled
Message	lol, sorry, I had an emo moment! SORRY IF I AM TOO SAD FOR YOU PEOPLE! *shoots self* lol *tox*

User	Avril54 | 2006-07-03 |
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Message	he he, tox. bleh

User	Toxic_Rayne | 2006-06-27 |
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Message	*smiles and dies inside* *tox*

User	coyote | 2006-06-26 |
Subject	Angst
Message	Angst comes in many different forms and it affects all generations. Teens did not invent it, but that’s why it seems so easy for them to write it--they dwell on it so much. As you get older you realize it is pointless to worry about things you can’t control so you move on. In other words, you get a life. As teens go through that process they should realize that worrying solves nothing. Look for answers/solutions, or just let it go. In the thirties kids worried about love, hate, the "great depression", and WWII. In the sixties they worried about love, hate, drugs, the draft, and Vietnam. In the nineties they worried about love, hate, drugs, aids, and the Gulf War (no draft). Things don’t change very much, do they? These things have always been with us, and likely will for a long time. Unfortunately, every generation has to figure that out, and they think they have such insight (maybe they do)--they discovered something. The good news is that many great rock songs (and other genres) have been written based on those insights. Did your folks tell you "no"? Did your car get trashed at a race? Did your girl friend (or boy friend) dump you (for any reason)? Okay, write about it. Make it a story, a poem, or a song, but please, try to use correct (appropriate) language, and check your spelling. You are supposed to be getting better, right? I’ll be waiting to read ut.

User	mae | 2006-05-26 |
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Message	It’s my guess, that in EVERY generation, individual parents have called their individual children that particular moniker! mae

User	Th_Plonk | 2006-05-26 |
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Message	They definitely called teens ungrateful brats 50 years ago, or so my parents claim. ;)

User	mae | 2006-05-26 |
Subject	untitled
Message	or are the angst poetry of past generations just well hidden? Well, we didn’t have the internet 50 years ago.

User	Sasha Lynn | 2006-05-26 |
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Message	mae- i didn’t mean to say that anyone HERE called teens "ungratful brats" but the general feeling most seem to express is that. and i agree with your idea that the realization of the world happens as a teen. I wonder, though, if angst poetry is more of a way for teens to feel that they are contributing something to society using their rage. Some may write to just get it all out but I think perhaps some feel that using thier frustration and anger to create something is some sort of power over that frustration. As to why teens seem to experiance so much more frustration than adults (which, I think it is safe to assume, they do not) its probably just adjusting to growing up, as you say. I don’t think that the problem of the overabundance of angst poetry will go away anytime soon but it seems to be a realativley new phenomenon and i wonder why that is. what is so different now as opposed to 50 years ago? or are the angst poetry of past generations just well hidden? SASHA LYNN

User	mae | 2006-05-23 |
Subject	untitled
Message	Sasha, I know there are adults who can’t stand teens, but no one on this particular topic has called teens ’ungrateful brats’ or referred to them as ’whiney’. But it is a fact that teens are more self-involved than adults are. In fact, there is only one other time in their lives when kids are more self-involved than teen-agers - and that’s two-year-olds. Sorry, but that’s just the way it is. Why are most teen-ager’s outlooks so dark and depressing? In my opinion - and this is only my opinion - it’s because they’re finally seeing the world as an adult sees it and they’re learning how to deal with it, emotionally. It’s part of the process. A two-year old learns that it’s not acceptable to hit his friends when he’s unhappy, so he throws a tantrum when he can’t get his own way. A 13 year old wants to wear Michael Jordan’s latest shoe style, but his/her parents don’t have the money to spend on yet another pair of basketball shoes and the 13 year old doesn’t have any money. Instead of throwing a tantrum (usually), the teen will write an angsty poem to express unhappiness. They can’t think of anything else to do. Up to that point, kids are pretty well protected and cared for. The teen wants what he/she views as independence, yet when responsibility comes along with it, he/she wants to be protected again. Responsibility is rather scary and doesn’t look like much fun when you get real close to it. Yet, all this is developmentally appropriate. It doesn’t mean it’s good writing, just that the teen is on track age-wise. mae

User	Sasha Lynn | 2006-05-23 |
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Message	Speaking as a person who just so happens to be in the throes of my teen years, I will be the first to admit that MOST teen poetry tends to be on the dark or whiney side. However, I hate the generalization that teen poetry is worthless ranting and that teens are unable to look at the world around them. While self-absorbtion is a huge part of todays sociey as well as growing up, people need to realize that there is actucaly a large teen population that is concerned with the world around them. I do not pretend for a moment that my poetry is not at most times depressing but i resent the thought that most adults seem to have that teens are just ingrateful brats. we contribute and generalizations only hurt the whole of society. That right there sounded angsty now didn’t it? I just can’t win can i? :) SASHA LYNN

User	mae | 2006-05-23 |
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Message	Teen-agers are designed to be self-involved. A good portion of that self-involvement means that they feel confined and stifled when they are denied the chance to do what they want, even if what they want is destructive to them. In my house, we called it ’senioritis’ and we went through it five times. Kids who are in their late teens begin to stretch their wings and it’s uncomfortable for everyone. In most families there just isn’t enough room to do an adequate wing-stretching job. Somebody is always getting slapped in the face (the parents) and somebody is always feeling cramped (the teen). That is why nearly all the writings by teens (and for some of them, it IS all) deal with depression and unhappiness and their extreme expressions. If it were not so, the kids would never leave home. You don’t strike out on your own when you’re contented and self-satisfied. Their writing reflects this. mae

User	Writer Chic | 2006-05-22 |
Subject	it sucks yeah
Message	well, it’s so true, but usually teens of today think that they are in so much pain and they are such dramaqeens/kings. They think everything is about them. Teens usually feel like breaking out and because their parents restrict them, they go and write some dark poem about how they wish they was dead...it’s riduculous. but then again...dark and depressing poems are well written..but the ones by teenagers are all sulky ones...typical ones with themes such as: "i wish i was dead" or "i hate everyone" that sorta thing...

User	kanu | 2006-05-21 |
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Message	happiness writes white

User	Chell | 2006-05-16 |
Subject	untitled
Message	I think a lot of it has to do with the raging hormones we all get to enjoy in our teenage years. The worst, and darkest poetry I’ve ever penned was when I was a teenager. But I think more of it is socially created. I was a teenager when I had to start realizing that life wasn’t going to be the bowl full of cherries that I had ordered. That I was going to have to work for a living, deal with the effects of aging, and watch the people around me die. And I had to accept that one day I’d die too. I think that the youth today feel completely disconnected, lost, and hopeless. Not only do they have to face the same things I did in school, but they have to worry about loss of jobs to illegal aliens, overpopulation issues, lack of proper education, and looming nuclear threats. They watch the endagered species increase it’s number of animals every year. They hear everyone talking about global warming. They are innundated with news about murders, rapes, abuse, and neglect. Some are being raised in insanely strict religions. I can understand why teenagers are writing dark poetry. This is a dark time to be a teenager. And if this is the vent, or the out, for them to express the weights the previous generations ahve left them with, we should count ourselves lucky. They could be revolting. (Which I doubt it too far off.) I write upbeat poetry because I have accepted that the world is a messed up place, but haven’t given up on the idea of beauty, kindness, and love. (Maybe I’m just refusing to take off the rose-colored goggles...) Just my thoughts...

User	Th_Plonk | 2006-05-15 |
Subject	untitled
Message	The problem is that angst poetry is easier to write, in the same way that an ugly picture is easier to draw. Writing a solidly uplifting or inspiring poem without suffering from the Sun On The Daisies effect is very hard. I know for a fact the reason most of the stuff I scribble in little books (but don’t necessarily show anyone) is pretty morbid stuff... not because I’m chronically depressed or live an unhappy life but because I often write as a means of dealing with a foul mood. I know that when I was in High School I never bothered writing when the sun was shining - what a waste of time! It’s the older folks who have lived long enough to appreciate the joy of sitting back on a good day, relaxing a bit, and penning down something uplifting.