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User	mae | 2007-04-03 |
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Message	*All I meant was that words can complicated matters more then necessary, or writing that is, if we just spoke to each other in person or on the phone then things would be easier to understand. Most of what you understand or comprehend from someone isnt in what is being said but the actions and body language being used to portray it.* Well, that is certainly true. mae

User	blankscreen | 2007-03-27 |
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Message	I didnt mean it that way. I apologize if I offended you or any other writer in anyway. Here we go again with the wall between what I meant to say and what ended up being said. Its a perfect example. The words I used, how I put them construed what I previously stated as being crude and innapropriate for this site. All I meant was that words can complicated matters more then necessary, or writing that is, if we just spoke to each other in person or on the phone then things would be easier to understand. Most of what you understand or comprehend from someone isnt in what is being said but the actions and body language being used to portray it. Theres some statistic on that but I forget what it is...

User	mae | 2007-03-26 |
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Message	well in the sense I put it I would say it brings order to the chaos within oneself, like it organizes your feelings into a more systemized manner, so you know more of what you want to say That’s a good point. As for abolishing words making things simpler - huh? How in the world would that make anything simpler? First off, words or sounds are integral to what makes us humans. We have speech; apes do not. Second, we are a social species. That means we want to communicate to each other. Without words, how are you going to do that? Grunts and pointing? It’s a little hard to communicate your hopes and dreams with someone that way. As for there being a wall between words and reality, well, I haven’t read that whole quote so I’m not prepared to comment on it. I do get very annoyed, however, at people saying ridiculous things, trying to sound profound (such as suggesting that we abolish words and that would make things simpler.) If you find a ’wall’ between what is happening and your ability to express it in words, then inrease your vocabulary. There are hundreds of superior words that don’t get used nearly often enough. *shakes head* I just can’t imagine writers advocating getting rid of words. Makes no sense. mae

User	blankscreen | 2007-03-26 |
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Message	yea. i mean, on the one hand i wouldnt be able ot survive without words, but on the other, the abolishment of words would make things all a lot simpler. It would make communication a bit harder though. People make things too complicated, whether with words or not. wish i could read that rant about words. lol. No but really...intresting subject. I wish I could find that one word that changes the world...whatever that means.

User	| 2007-03-25 |
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Message	interesting perspective. Did you know while there are still many "subcultures" that don’t actaullu use written language because they find it arbitrary, that b4 that was the first sign of a intelligent civilization.

User	silent_death12 | 2007-03-25 |
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Message	=] ’on another note someone once said to me that there is a wall between reality and words which can get quite annoying and therefore lead to further chaos within the mind of that one person.’ ~luv the connection omg ^_^ its pretty true...I read this huge long rant about how ineffective words are, it’s a bit lengthy but very much worth the read.....I disappointed myself tho :( it was late and I didn’t get a chance to link it >_< I checked out so much stuff on the site && didn’t feel like checking history lol. but yeah....most of the time words are just symbols; going back to a huge cliche but the rose :). I guess that is frustrating; when you want to express something but you know your words aren’t doing an adequate job...thanx for the insight ^^

User	blankscreen | 2007-03-25 |
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Message	well in the sense I put it I would say it brings order to the chaos within oneself, like it organizes your feelings into a more systemized manner, so you know more of what you want to say. on another note someone once said to me that there is a wall between reality and words which can get quite annoying and therefore lead to further chaos within the mind of that one person. i guess chaos can be a lot of things tho, whether within one person or the whole society as mentioned about Thomas Payne. Thanks a lot guys.:)

User	silent_death12 | 2007-03-24 |
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Message	oh.....well thanks :) I’m not sure how other people perceive me so in theory I couldda just come off ’that fucked up’ but Idk, destruction and dysfunction definatly are there w/ chaos.... I never gave "chaos" an exact defintion that didn’t include something else w/i that.... wow, you gave me like a whole complex to work out in my head :) thanks ;)

User	dismentled | 2007-03-24 |
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Message	No you’re not that fucked up! And I think you’re referring more to dystruction, than chaos.

User	silent_death12 | 2007-03-24 |
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Message	Yes but I’m saying that sometimes order occurs naturally too or finds its own course. there are numerous times when we’re the ones adding the chaos unless of course we’re going on the argument that *I’m* just that fucked up and it applies to no one else? in which case sure, you’re absolutely right.

User	dismentled | 2007-03-24 |
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Message	NO, it’s because of chaos that we don’t have order. Chaos exhisted way b4 order. Order can not exhist without direction, and chaos is simply the absence of order, hence it was around long b4 us!

User	silent_death12 | 2007-03-24 |
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Message	when has it ever really been about "adding order to chaos" without our created chaos; there would be order. no, I’d say it’s much more correct that we add the chaos :) [at least I should hope so]

User	mae | 2007-03-20 |
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Message	Order to the chaos? Not necessarily. It can, of course, if that’s the goal of the writer. But if you think about it a minute, there have been many, many writers who do just the opposite. In the history of the U.S., Thomas Payne added to the growing chaos with his writing. The effect on the writer him/herself is a bit harder to measure in those instances. Writing is not, after all, like a video game: if you play violent video games for an extended period of time, you leave feeling agitated and irritable and more inclined to "violent behavior" (arguments with parents, siblings, etc. even up to actual violence). But if, as Thomas Payne, you are writing a piece that in its rhetoric advocates the overthrow of a government, will it leave you feeling relaxed or stimulated? And how does writing fiction differ? I can’t think that writing a fiction piece where there is violence will lead the writer to violent tendencies, but who’s to say? Order from chaos? Violent overthrow? Peaceful relaxation? Anxiety? I should think that all of those are possible. mae

User	blankscreen | 2007-03-20 |
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Message	agree it brings order to the chaos?

User	mae | 2007-03-18 |
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Message	If you expect to feed yourself with your writing, then writing is probably not a good thing. Most writers - other than technical writers or journalists - have to support themselves at some other endeavor. And it is sedentary, so it couldn’t be said to be good for you in that regard. But as for psychological health, I think writing is like any other pursuit that someone ENJOYS. The mere fact that you enjoy it makes it good for you, all those endorphins, you know. It is an outlet in that you can set your anxieties on paper - certainly cheaper than a shrink; you can work through anger; you can explore the solutions to problems and conflicts; and when you’ve created something and tuned it to your satisfaction, then you are left with a feeling of accomplishment. All good things. So, on balance, I’d have to agree that writing is a healthful way to spend your time. Certainly beats arguing with your family. mae

User	DaGrimReaperess | 2007-03-18 |
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Message	get with iyt mannnnnnnnn

User	dismentled | 2007-03-14 |
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Message	so instead you put your heart and soul into the destruction and violence?

User	DaGrimReaperess | 2007-02-27 |
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Message	i write as an alternate to mindless destruction and violence

User	dismentled | 2007-02-27 |
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Message	sure :)

User	blankscreen | 2007-02-27 |
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Message	lol. yea. I know what you mean...not really fitting in and all. For me I dont really question peoples writing though because I have friends who will write a bit and I even have my twin sister and even though we have been subject to the same things and started writing at the same age and all we do write diffrently and we are each unique so yeah...its good to have someone there even if we hate eachother at times. lol. Yeah, sooner or later we all find our ways of being comfortable in our own skin, whether its fitting in or not. Seems like for me its an endless battle between staying myself and conforming enough to fit in with everyone else. Haha, aliens from another planet...weee. lol. Yeah sry, hard to get in my head. But I do sympathize with you and yes, everyone is AWESOME. yay. lol