| User | Venia | | Topic | Middleschool love | | Message | ok so I’m 14 and I was just goofing off on myspace when something dawned on me. On all these girls’ sites it talks about one of two things.
1) Their boyfriend of two weeks now is the love of their life and they would die for them blahblahblah
or 2) Love is terrible to them, they just can’t seem to get anything right, they’re so depressed, etc, etc
seriously, if you’re fourteen and you’ve been with someone all of 10 ten days you’re not in love, yet, no matter what you say. It just doesn’t work like that. Infatuation, obsession and stalking works like that.
and if you’re 14 and telling everyone you’re so depressed and you’re gonna die alone because you’ve been single for all of a month, that’s just dumb. When people tell you to grow up, they’re not implying you start referring to yourself as "always the bridesmaid, never the bride" like some 30-year-old single waitress or something. (no offence to the 30-year-old waitresses out there)
so my question is how and when did the troubles of the single, middle-aged woman become the woes of the common 8th grader? |
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| User | JimweiZERO | 2007-05-23 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | "yeah. but the best part is when they take pictures together and the next week is gone and all of a sudden it’s like they never existed. ha. "
yeah, lol. there was this guy who was the singer of a band we played with. so we all added the band and its members to friends and when i went on his page, it said all about his girlfriend and how he had a wonderful future ahead of him, and pictures of them together and it was in his name and everything (although I don’t know how long they had been together. and then when i visited his page again a few weeks later there was nothing about her at all, so i laughed.
but yeah, point is, there’s no way you can be "in love" after like a week and at 14, you probably won’t be with your bf/gf when you leave school. |
| User | darkness | 2007-05-06 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | yah thas funny |
| User | GiveMeTheGun | 2007-05-04 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | yeah. but the best part is when they take pictures together and the next week is gone and all of a sudden it’s like they never existed. ha. |
| User | UnderINK | 2007-05-03 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | That’s what we’re saying. Girls are hardwired to function like that because in our species, we were always meant to mate young. So at 14, boys AND girls sometimes feel like they have to find love NOW or it will never come. That’s hardwired into our brains, more or less. Some are the exception to that. I never felt like that, really, myself, but I know a lot of people that do. As soon as girls and guys hit that special age, they have a deep and primal urge to have sex. Often times, they mistake infatuation (biological attraction on an extreme level) for love, when it’s really their body just trying to figure out what it wants. They’re ready, species wise, to mate and have sex then, but our new and modern society prefers that girls and guys ’figure shit out first’. We haven’t adjusted to that. They’ve done studies, I’m almost positive, to examine the brain of children during puberty. My biology teacher used to give us huge and lengthy rants about how, ’You think you love him now but he actually, most likely, just wants some sex’. Girls don’t grasp that because we’re wired for emotion and we perceive everything as having to do with emotion. Thus, when a guy is with you, it means he loves you and likes to be around you--our first thought ISN’T that he wants in our pants, usually, unless he’s a creep. It’s just like that on an extreme level for children. Also, I think the lack of education in that area causes children to not really understand the consequences of getting so wound up over a person they probably won’t even remember after high school.
As far as the REACTION itself, girls particularly are naturally emotional, but hormone fluctuations in all teenagers make them emotional to a higher degree. It’s really a combination of all of that. It’s mostly hormones, like I said. We’re wired to be that way and the teenage mind can’t handle the huge influx of hormones, and usually can’t understand why they’re overcome with love or grief. Usually it’s just infatuation and depression. |
| User | Venia | 2007-05-02 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | well, while I think the primal sex drive could play a role in it, and I know that girls used to marry young, I still wonder why the desire is pushed to such extremes. A girl I know "went out" with a guy for two days and told us all she would die for him....they broke up the next day. That’s more what I’m getting at. What would possess a person to behave like that? |
| User | UnderINK | 2007-05-02 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Actually, I’m quite correct on the span of time. And I did not mean ’twenty’ by a couple of decades, I was thinking more like 70. Excuse that need for clarification. I don’t think anyone is inclined to believe that we were getting married at 12 twenty years ago. I wasn’t referring just to America, mind you, considering I don’t hail from this country originally. I was putting on more of a general moral change rather than a purely American one, though in some countries girls still marry young, its acceptableness has lowered in the last few decades (again, half a century, at least) in countries other than America, as I mentioned. |
| User | mae | 2007-05-02 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Studies have shown that during puberty, the most active part of an adolescent’s brain is the hypothalamus, the portion responsible for the most primitive of our actions and reactions, while the prefrontal cortex, the part responsible for reasoning and logical thought is still immature even into our 20’s. Sexual desire is, even at its best, primal. For boys, it’s a simple urge, with little meaning in and of itself. A boy may care for the girl he’s interested in having sex with, but he’s just as likely not to. For girls, sexual desire is multi-layered, thus the penchant for teen girls to turn every flirting episode into a torrid love affair. For a teen girl, there is no simply being attracted to someone; she must be in love with him. That’s okay; it’s the way they’re wired.
Underink is right about the ages at which girls used to marry - though not about how long ago it was. A couple of decades? Girls, in the U.S. anyway, haven’t been married off at such a young age since the late 1700’s or early 1800’s - and maybe even before that. The real reason for such a change in the desired age to marry was simply the fact that the human lifespan was lengthening. You didn’t HAVE to marry at 14 and be a parent at 15 anymore; because you were going to live past the age of 40. A longer lifespan gave teen-agers more of a chance to grow up before they got married and began families of their own. But you can be sure that then as now, teen-aged girls were writing "Mrs. So-and-so" all over their school slates. So,actually, what are now the "troubles of the single, middle-aged woman" have always been the problems of the common 8th grader and only in the last 200-250 (not 20!) years has such not been solely the problem of the single, middle-aged woman. mae |
| User | UnderINK | 2007-04-28 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | A long time ago, actually. Only in modern day are things like that worries of middle-aged women. In older times, even less than a hundred years ago, girls were getting married off at 12 and 14, and to not be married meant you were unattractive in some way. It was a disadvantage in society. I think humans are so used to getting it when they’re young that, when we made a moral switch a couple of decades ago, their hormones didn’t comply. You see, when a girl and guy hit pueberty, their only concern is being with someone, almost. My boyfriend told me, when talking about having sex with the one other girl he did other than me, that when he was 14 he felt like he wasn’t ever going to have sex if he didn’t have it then. It’s just chemicals. He did and realized it wasn’t that great with someone you don’t love. They’re at a stage where they think they need sex and love, but they don’t. The reason we switched away from getting married so young is more or less because psychologists realized that young people aren’t fully mentally developed until about 18, and even THEN they’re not done. Some people who can’t do math develop math skills by the age of 25. Your brain is constantly growing, so there really isn’t any SET age, but the necessary growth needed to handle a long term relationship with someone is developed in the average person around 18. Some get it younger, some get it older. And in a society like this one, they don’t have much else to complain about. Back when they were getting married at 12 and 14, they also had to bust their asses in factories or in fields from sunrise to sunset and had something serious to complain about. This life is too convinient and yet too restricting at the same time, they’re venting in the only way possible. |
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