| User | Lost Sheep | | Topic | Comment Rating | | Message | What do you guys think of the nw comment rating feature?
At first glance, I’m not a big fan. It doesn’t seem to serve a lot of purpose. It seems like the LAST thing we want is people not commenting, because they’re worried it will mess up their rating.
There are some pieces on here (ie pieces about a loved one’s death) that should be commented on with superficial lightness and compassion. There are others (mispelled drivel) that should be commented on harshly. I would hate to see someone bare their soul on an extremely personal piece, only to have people commenting about their lack of commas because their comment ratings are getting too nice.
I guess to me, it’s a case of "If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it." We’ve been dealing with the idiots OK under the old system.
Thoughts?
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| User | littlepoet | 2006-04-07 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | jimmy is just give you suggestions on how to give better feed back thats what it’s all about and we need to how give better and more constructive critic |
| User | Lost Sheep | 2006-04-06 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Lame comments bother me as well, but fortunately, I don’t seem to get too many of them. I think punctuation errors and spelling mistakes should be mentioned, as they make any piece look like dirt, but there should be in depth commentary as well.
The key to whether I enjoy a comment or not isn’t really the amount of improvement they recomend. It’s whether they’ve taken the time to read the piece and think about it.
I guess my prefered treatment of bad comments would be to have people PM the bad commenters and ask them for improvements.
When I get a lame, nonsense comment, I usually refer people to "Coment Hell" a piece I wrote about lame comments. That usually gets a laugh out of everyone and solves the problem.
Steve |
| User | Fantastic Freya | 2006-04-05 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Further to that, let me also say that I and several of my acquaintances have left sites in the past because of useless commentary. For all the vocal people who will throw tantrums over this one indicator, there will be many more over the life of ES who will merely drift away out of despair over lack of valuable feedback. The saddest part of that is, they are usually people who genuinely care for the art of poetry. |
| User | Fantastic Freya | 2006-04-05 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Remarking on lack of commas and such does not make a good comment, and to believe that’s what the Webmaster intends is purely childish. One can comment on a piece of work honestly without being anal about it -- all that’s required is that the poem is read, an attempt is made to understand it, and areas that may be improved are pointed out. No specific suggestions need to be made, if that’s not your style. If you can’t think of any areas to improve, then say what makes it so good. What I believe the comment rating ought to be used for is to encourage those people who write generic comments which only give gratuitous praise to rethink their style. I wish it were only a few people on Elite who do that -- unfortunately it’s rampant, and people become lazy with their critiques. Those are useless for anyone who actually posts in order to improve their poetry rather than just to be seen. |
| User | Lost Sheep | 2006-04-04 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Lostinbeer: Since you say that you’ve read my comments and rated me with a 4, why are you acusing me of wanting "to praise people, stick feather’s up their arse" and "lick the soles of their shoes"? The fact is I don’t want to do those things and, as you’ve noted, I don’t.
The problem is really one of gratitude. If someone picks up a hitchhiker on the road, does the hitchhiker have a right to expect the driver to drive certain speeds or listen to a certain radio station? If a good samaritan carries a heavy package for an old lady, does she have the right to critique his lifting technique? The reality is that when someone does someone else a favor, the benefited person doesn’t evaluate their behavior, particularly not publicly. A simple thank you is normally expected and given. What makes evaluating a comment acceptable?
Steve |
| User | mae | 2006-04-02 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | I don’t much like it, either. Is leaving a complimentary comment on a truly beautiful poem going to mess up your rating? I know our webmaster has a thing about leaving compliments, but, on rare occasions, a poem only deserves compliments. I try not to be harsh with my comments, but the ratings seem to reward harshness, at least a bit.
And besides, I find that the rating is always in the back of my mind when I leave a comment. I haven’t been a big commenter, lately, anyway, and this may make me shy away from it even more.
Nope, can’t see its value. mae |
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