User  Black Rock Tractor 
 Topic  Posting Limits 
 Message  I have a great idea once again. I get frustrated sometimes with not being able to post because no one else is posting. It seems to me that the post limit is in place to prevent over posting in general, yet I think that there are times when it causes underposting because myself and five other people are waiting to post and no one else is posting. There could be a simple fix for this. Instead of an arbitrary limit to posting, allow users to supercede that limit in times of low posting.

For example: If there is a posting rate of only one every 10 minutes for the last hour, let any users that are ready to post go ahead and post. When the rate finally exceeds one for every ten minutes over the past hour, return to the normal limits.

The rate I stated may need adjusting, but the logic is their. What do you think? 

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 User   eener | 2004-12-13 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Antihero, the site is called Elite Skills. Skills: to me that means more than just the skill of writing poetry. The skill of critiquing as well. Not to mention that critiquing a piece helps you become better at analyzing pieces of writing, which is a very useful skill.

Yes, we come here to share our poety, that is true. I should also think we come here to improve our skill. Which means that we need help from other poets. Now is it fair to take their help without returning any services we can to them? Absolutely not. 

 User   Webmaster | 2004-12-10 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Give 3 take 3 and the site is the same as before you came.
Give 1 take 9 and you just took 8 comments from other people without returning them.

When you give a comment, you at least want a comment in return.
People who can’t get the simple concept of give and take and just want to be "heard" really do need to find another site where you can post yourself stupid and boost your ego. The limitations don’t effect anyone that is giving as much as they take.


Everyone wants to be heard but nobody wants to listen. 

 User   angela~ | 2004-12-08 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  If everybody felt that way, Antihero, there would be no one to actually read the poems.  

 User   eener | 2004-11-19 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  I agree with Mr. Fizzle. I posted a piece today, and it moved off the new submissions lists in about 10 minutes and only 8 people have read it. It was kind of annoying, but more people will probably look at it in the future, so it didn’t bother me very much. 

 User   angela~ | 2004-08-20 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Yeah, you can’t fix selfishness. I don’t even care about getting comments anymore. I did when I first got here but it changed. The comments can’t really help me or hurt me...they are just there. I get a lot more enjoyment out of just surfing around to people’s pages and reading their stuff...  

 User   Webmaster | 2004-08-20 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  It should work fine no matter how fast the posts are moving if people gave as much comments as they get. I never really liked the recent submissions area as a place to give comments. Browse around the user pages. I’ll try to make it a little slower for posting but idealy I need to figure out how to get like the amount of posts per hour calculated and determine the restriction rate by that number. I doubt this will fix the problem though.  

 User   angela~ | 2004-08-20 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  I think stopping people from posting 2 poems at a time would slow down the page. And my beef are with these people that have such a low reciprocation. They keep it right at 73% and make just enough comments to others so they can post again. People like GOBALATA. They post and post and take up space. Other people get bumped off the page while they post 3-4 times a day. I think we should be limited that we can only post once every 12 hours or something..... 

 User   Mister Fizzle | 2004-08-17 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  The problem of not being able to post fast enough is not the main problem in myt opinion. IT is a side effect. The main problem is that new posts move so quickly off the first page that they don’t recieve much attention. This in turn makes the writer want to post something else in hopes of getting more feedback. Truely there is a real disposable feel to the poetry around here and I don’t care for it. Something needs to be done to slow new submissions down and allow people to comment on them. Or something needs to be done to recycle these works back to the front page. That would help alot I think. If a poem is commented on it should get moved back to the front page for others to see the poem again. People would really appreciate their work getting more attention and feedback. 

 User   Webmaster | 2004-08-07 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Yeah, it’s better now. There’s a lot of people writing great comments now. Before I felt like it was almost everyone. Let’s me relax more. New users will catch on faster. 

 User   angela~ | 2004-08-06 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  It pisses me off that people complain about posting limits when they are tops on the Hall Of Shame list. What the hell? Why should you be able to post again. READ something for a change and wait to post. Egomaniacs.  

 User   Webmaster | 2004-08-03 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Why don’t you delete the one with 0 comments/views on it and post another. The limit is based on the post before last. If there is no post before last, there is no limit. 

 User   Aksuri | 2004-06-26 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  You’re too kind. Many of the writers just want to get comments. They don’t moderate how often they post without a limit. The limit is just a reminder things are to be taken with patience and for the majority it’s a reasonable number. 

 User   alexianx | 2004-06-26 |
 Subject  Contemplation 
 Message  Perhaps you should consider lowering the amount of posts required until someone can submit more of their work? I, for one, go to the new submissions section from time to time and find nothing but work that I’ve already commented on to read. In fact, that’s the very reason why I’m in the forums right now.

~James "Alexian" Neal
http://www.alexiansaga.com 

 User   Sandburg | 2004-06-11 |
 Subject  However... 
 Message  If you can’t post for awhile, and have already put up two, it’s nice to go back and read your favorite authors’ older work. I know I learn more from reading other’s poetry than I do writing my own. 

 User   Webmaster | 2004-06-08 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  True. The limit has been pretty much arbitrary and is not efficient at certain parts of the day. I just figured two posts would be enough for awhile. People get greedy for more comments and they start to post everthing in that little venting notebook of theirs. The concept behind the limit is, if they can’t post in awhile, they won’t submit everything that comes to their head, or their most mediocre of pieces. More thought is given in evaluating the strength of the peice rather than posting just to be heard. In this way, they’ll post what’s most important to them first.

It’s on the to do list but I have to think of a good way of setting it it. The frequency of people’s post is hard to measure. I may setup a cron job to take the stats right before the end of the day. People start getting compulsive with posting whatever comes to their head and the couple that with automating their comment process. I just want people to take the site with patience. They overwhelm themselves too often in trying to take things all at once. 

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