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User	angela~ | 2004-12-08 |
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Message	typo comments OR notes

User	angela~ | 2004-12-08 |
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Message	mae, I agree with that. It should not be used when leaving comments on notes on people’s pages. I was referring to its use in poetry or stories. :)

User	mae | 2004-12-07 |
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Message	angela~’s point is well-taken - to a "point". When swearing or vulgar language is always offensive (at least, to me) is when it’s used in a comment. You don’t have to read poetry you visit if it contains words that are offensive to you, but when someone uses it in a comment about one of your poems, it sits there fouling up your page until enough comments come along to knock it off. I think swearing or vulgar language is always inappropriate in comments. mae

User	angela~ | 2004-12-06 |
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Message	One man’s trash is another’s treasure. We don’t all like the same things. Find something more to your liking if you don’t like the swearing. You wouldn’t hang a painting on your wall that you hated. You would keep looking for something that suits your taste. It doesn’t mean someone else wouldn’t like it.

User	Kristina9178 | 2004-11-19 |
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Message	shit fuck cocksucker mother fucker son of a bitchin whore damn pussy! what a catharsis!

User	magnicat | 2004-11-18 |
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Message	well, i tend to think that it is easier to just throw out a curse word than to try and come up with a more creative way of expressing yourself. sometimes, though, a curse word is appropriate. aw, fuck it!

User	Learah | 2004-11-18 |
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Message	Fuck common. Fuck "nice". Fuck fuck fuck. Get over it. We swear. Don’t like it? Say so, but don’t expect me to do as you say. So I swear when I write in my comments, or in the forum, or my messages. That’s because I’m real, I’m not hiding who I am or pretending to be better. I keep my poetry clean for the most part because I don’t need to swear there, because there are so many different forms of expressing myself. But if I walked up to some guy in a bar and say "heyy, wanna go fornicate?" I’d go home horny and alone. I should actually mention that I’v never walked up to anyone and handed them such a proposition, but you get my drift. Poetry is an art form, and it’s considered so for a reason. Because in poetry, we can manipulate our words, our sentiments and our visions just the same way a painter can mix oils on canvas or a photographer can use a different lens to refract light. But every now and again, something comes through in all its "vulgar", "crass" harsh realism, like MyX’s Cursive Shit Prints, my Ms N Sanitee, or in Art, Damien Hirst’s Cow In Formaldehyde, Picasso’s Weeping Head, or in Music, say... Nine Inch Nails’ Closer or Chuck Berry’s My Ding-A-Ling. All of those art forms (I’m not saying myself and MyX are on the same level but was merely using them as poetic examples people from the site might be familiar with) were considered crude and disgusting but they are undoubtably art, no matter how unpalatable. It is considered amateurish and unskilled to "poetry, write a way unnatural to our speech!" and yet, it’s also considered ill-mannered to curse in the same medium? Is that not a blatant, roaring contradiction then, if our speech is already littered with obscenities? In prose I WILL swear to give a character realism. In company, I may or may not curse, as it depends on where I am, what I am doing, who is there... I personally like being able to say "damnshitbuggeryFUCK!!!" when something goes wrong, or to say "heya doon, Jiggynuts??" to a friend... I think it depends on the context. So if someone says a bad word in writing, consider dracoscove’s point about it being the norm everywhere else and not bring double standards to something that is supposed to showcase feeling and emotions of our times. If you don’t like it, don’t read it.

User	Kristina9178 | 2004-11-18 |
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Message	common...oh please...I am far from common. The world is fucking vulgar and I’ll swear if I want to. Pick up a copy of The Best American Poetry...doesn’t matter what year in the past 10...any copy within the decade....then count the swear words. I think you’ll be surprised at how many "commoners" are published published poets who use an ugly word from time to time.

User	BCute | 2004-10-18 |
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Message	*applauds darc archadya* completely agree..i was actually going to say something along those lines then scrolled down to hear what others had to say. i figured that would be repetitive

User	Darc Archadya | 2004-10-01 |
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Message	Did you know that the rate of young people swearing in the United States is actually going down? It looks like their lack of a creative poetry outlet has been quelled, and they’re all posting their poetry on eliteskills.com. Hmm... Aah, well, if you really want to swear... take it somewhere else, or keep it in your own writing, not in your comments. To each his own--unless he’s commenting on your writing and you find it as offensive and vulgar as I.

User	secret moon | 2004-09-16 |
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Message	Swearing only shows that people are too uncreative to come up with better ways to express their emotions. Cussing is inappropriate on a site in which all audiences should feel comfortable. . . I don’t think anyone is going to feel uncomfortable because there isn’t any cursing, whereas I never comment or continue to read anything if it has any cursing in it. Truly, it ruins poems and shows how unintelligent the poet behind the words is. Boycott cussing!

User	Tali | 2004-08-11 |
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Message	I don’t c why it would b necessary to swear in the forums...Perosnally i’m the foulest mouth little girl i’ve ever met but not round people who i respect, not in front of people don’t know and not in writing...unless it’s really needed to emphasise a point. I think it’s crass and you can’t use the excuse "it just slipped out" hen you offend people. Writers of ES....i think we should boycott the uck word (and the like)....just to c how many people actually would..... Vote one for a potty free vocabulary starting from now!

User	Seiraryu | 2004-05-11 |
Subject	Huh.
Message	I disagree with the fact that swearing sounds crass in writing. It -can- sound crass, but it doesn’t have to. If you use it right, at the appropriate moments and with the appropriate character/purpose it can fit in very well with the story. Saying that swearing is crass, is like saying that walking is slow.

User	angela~ | 2004-05-06 |
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Message	Hey Scandum! How can you say that when I just critiqued a write of yours and advised against the word "fuck" in your love poem? Might that be a tad hypocritical?

User	Clayton | 2004-03-30 |
Subject	Censored
Message	All the censoring in the world will not create a writer! First you must be born with the desire, then the ideals to lift it up.

User	magnicat | 2004-03-28 |
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Message	i figure, being that we are creative people, we can find a better way to say what we want to say without swearing. unless, of course, it has a very significant place in a writing. it’s a turn-off, to me, anyway, to read a curse-filled anything. we are a little more intelligent than that, and that’s what i used to tell my kids on the bus when i drove one! they looked at me like i was *&^%%-ing insane! lol!

User	Clayton | 2004-03-25 |
Subject	Swearing
Message	As it has already mentioned; "It sounds crass"! In writing it looks crass, unprofessional,and overall an in-eptness at ability to create, In my opinion, if you can’t find any word other than swearing, you need to go back to english class and do a refresher course in the english language. At least make your efforts to write look as if you know how to write.

User	Webmaster | 2004-03-09 |
Subject	0.o
Message	The forum is censored? What the fuck?

User	brokenmuse | 2004-03-08 |
Subject	not a swear word.
Message	i would just like to say that fuc k is not a swear word, nor is shi t, and neither is as s

User	ruejacobs | 2004-03-03 |
Subject	ah, the 7 swears...
Message	according to George Carlin, it’s alright to prick my finger but not to finger my prick. there were origionally seven swears which were not allowed on tv. and then there George came along and pointed out a slew of overlooked ones! well, on tv, it has been decided by the the censor men that as long as a word does not refer to a sexual act or an excretory function, it is permissable. the ’f’ word was recently challenged and it’s use on air as an adjective was allowed. the ’sh’, one somehow made it past them, too.