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 User  Toxic_Rayne 
 Topic  School Shootings 
 Message   Society will always try to lay blame, allow me to make a list of the shit people laid blame on during the Columbine, or any school shooting for that matter....

Too much violence on Tv
Lack of gun control
Violent video games
Violent/satanic music
Lack of parental involvement
Bullying
Being a loner/outsider
Drugs
Alcohol
Anti-depresant drugs (perscription kind)
Public High Schools
Lack of proper disicplanary systems in schools
Pulp Fiction
Wanted publicity
Wanted to be on the cover of time magazine
Cry for help
Cultural death
Violent rock lyrics
Pychopathy
Guns without safety locks
Gothic Culture
The media
Angry
Confused
Availability of guns/amunition
Social Problems
Revenge against those who have hurt them
Lack of value for life
Abuse at home
Witness of abuse
Mental problems
Encouragemnet from others
Violence is a way of life
Some even say it was due to BOREDOM!!!
Feelings of isolation or not fitting in
Any violence cause teenagers to go off the deep end
"Brutal" movies
"Savage music
Alienation
Selfhood:aka IDIVIDUALTIY they’re saying its a bad thing
Suburban, or urban areas (even though it’s increasing in rural places)


Descirbed as the bubonic plague of America, high school holocaust, called the "heart of all darkness" in America, "Orgy of destruction", "Teen bloodlust".

If this doesn’t make you sick to your stomach, I don’t know what will. Society needs a scapegoat I guess. I think these reasons are bullshit, my reason...

IT JUST FUCKING HAPPENS, KIDS DIE!. 

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 User   Toxic_Rayne | 2006-05-17 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Exactly! I mean, they blame the shooters way more than the bullies, but some innocent people were killed, and I feel greif because of that. But no one’s ever innocent and yes, everyone is responsible for their own actions, even if there is a nightmare lying behind it.

*Tox* 

 User    | 2006-05-16 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  true no one would have gotten killed, but they didn’t pull the trigger. trust me I’m the last one to stick up for bullies; that one korn song was/is my favorites for quite some time. It’s like blaming your parents for drinking, or using drugs. It’s an exscuse, nothing more than a rationalization. Did they push you, yes, were there wrose outlets; probabily, but only an individual can be blamed for their actions; unless their under mind control; but you get the point 

 User   Toxic_Rayne | 2006-05-16 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  I think both the shooters and the bullies are to blame. I mean, neither side is innocent, but the shooters, in most cases, had one hell of a good reason to do it. Anger, anger at the fact that they were never accepted. If people hadn’t pushedthem to the point of cracking, no one would have gotten killed.

*Tox* 

 User   dismentled | 2006-05-16 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  well I’m not going to argue to much, shyt happens kids die; you’re absolutely right. But it’s simple the ones to blame are the ones who did it, simple as that! Aside from that the parents should have been parenting, and the school should have realized what was happening to them before they took it into their own hands, but ultimately only they who do so can be blamed. 

 User   supergirl_in_oh | 2006-05-15 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  i am check it  

 User   Toxic_Rayne | 2006-05-14 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Yeay! she is back, now debate! lol

*tox* 

 User   supergirl_in_oh | 2006-05-10 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  guess who is back...... ME 

 User   Toxic_Rayne | 2006-05-09 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Okay, I’m so glad someone finally responded to this, lol. Anyway, I agree with most that you agreed with up above except I’m confused about one thing. If someone has abuse at home, wouldn’t they witness it as well or were you thinking of something else?

Anyway, just a small question, thats all. But I’m so glad that you did not go for the whole "music warped their minds" thing. I think it’s so ridiculus and it only makes people inch away from you if you listen to metal music, etc. It really irks me.

Thanks for responding

*Tox* 

 User   joeyalphabet | 2006-05-09 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Too much violence on Tv yes
Lack of gun control yes
Violent video games yes
Violent/satanic music no
Lack of parental involvement yes
Bullying yes
Being a loner/outsider yes
Drugs yes
Alcohol yes
Anti-depresant drugs (perscription kind) no
Public High Schools no
Lack of proper disicplanary systems in schools no
Pulp Fiction no
Wanted publicity no
Wanted to be on the cover of time magazine no
Cry for help yes
Cultural death no
Violent rock lyrics no
Pychopathy yes
Guns without safety locks no
Gothic Culture no
The media yes
Angry yes
Confused yes
Availability of guns/amunition yes
Social Problems yes
Revenge against those who have hurt them yes
Lack of value for life yes
Abuse at home yes
Witness of abuse no
Mental problems yes
Encouragemnet from others no
Violence is a way of life yes
Some even say it was due to BOREDOM!!! no
Feelings of isolation or not fitting in yes
Any violence cause teenagers to go off the deep end no
"Brutal" movies yes
"Savage music no
Alienation yes
Selfhood:aka IDIVIDUALTIY they’re saying its a bad thing no
Suburban, or urban areas (even though it’s increasing in rural places) no
 

 User   Toxic_Rayne | 2006-05-06 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message   Okay, enough short talk, let’s get to business, how about this...answer these questions...

1. What do you think causes school shootings and why?

2. Do you think they are a big deal and why?

3. Who or what would you blame the most out of the examples I stated message?

*Tox*  

 User   Toxic_Rayne | 2006-04-24 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Okay, enough short talk, let’s get to business, how about this...answer these questions...

1. What do you think causes school shootings and why?

2. Do you think they are a big deal and why?

3. Who or what would you blame the most out of the examples I stated message?

*Tox* 

 User   supergirl_in_oh | 2006-04-19 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  yup 

 User   Toxic_Rayne | 2006-04-19 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  okay.... 

 User   supergirl_in_oh | 2006-04-18 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  lol not rude just speaking the truth 

 User   Toxic_Rayne | 2006-04-17 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  yupps, don have to be so rude, lol 

 User   supergirl_in_oh | 2006-04-17 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  yea i have heard the story a thousand times i know what happened but i personally think it is because of bullies 

 User   Toxic_Rayne | 2006-04-17 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  yea, but I think half of it is because he just wanted to kill somebody...to get his hate out...but him and Klebold shot themselves in the Cafeteria after wards, commiting suicide. 

 User   supergirl_in_oh | 2006-04-17 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  i agree the only reason harris did it is because he needed revennge on....dare i say it....bullies 

 User   Toxic_Rayne | 2006-04-17 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  your welcome, lol...and again, you’d think the bullies would learn to shut themselves up, but no, they just keep on doing what they do, and they get killed for it...neither side is innocent, like I said. Yeah, sure, the kids who were shot in Columbine died, most of them anyway, but in a way, they got what Harris and Klebold felt mentally. Only they paid for it by loosing their lives....the people that is...see, I find it almost amusing it’s so ironic...Harris and Klebold were dying in side, if they weren’t already dead inside, so they killed the people who made them that way...in the end everyone was dead....


*Toxic* 

 User   supergirl_in_oh | 2006-04-17 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  thank you 

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