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User	kanu | 2006-05-30 |
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Message	To say that there is no ultimate truth in the universe is to say that everyone just lives in their mind - so then why is their any misery in the world if the ultimate cause lies in the fantastic construction of people’s mind?

User	kanu | 2006-03-24 |
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Message	Ontology deals with the nature of reality - in other words some things are more real than others - so there ar e some truths that are dependant on other truths - so obviously if two contradictory truths meet the one that emerges stronger is more true. So there are intrinsic truths - like for instance you cannot take the wetness out of water (you can do it artificially by making it ice but in its natural state it will easily revert back to wateriness) or the heat from fire - similarly you cannot take consciousness from the soul (the moment you die you are left with nothing but a lump of matter)

User	Hallian | 2006-03-17 |
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Message	What is the meaning of 42? ..... errr, random thought. Maybe that we’re all divisable by 2 and are 6x7. Or maybe forty-two has a particular letter pattern. Or! Ooh, ooh, maybe that we’re all cool because 42 is a cool number! Yay! Okay.... I’ve heard some philosophy stuff that the only real thing is what you can see. In which case, maybe truth is just what you think it is. That by believing something to be, we are creating it, as a group. So it is collective believing that makes a truth... so take a poll and then you have the truth. ANd that would mean truth changes, because people change. I believe all words are relative, so everything has opposites, often times there are many opposites, or it has to have a physical corrolation. Truth is when it is not a lie. So anytime someone is not telling a lie, they are telling the truth. The questions come when they think they are telling the truth, but they are actually telling a lie, so does that mean that when they said it it was truth or a lie? Weee, this fun! Hallian

User	Yara Lorinda | 2006-03-17 |
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Message	How can something be absolute? A truth has more than one side. How do you define truth? What is truth? You can not give an answer if you do not know the question? You might say that there is an absolute, so a lie should be absolue as well. But aren’t there things you just can not know? Yeah, a liedetector is indeed easy to fool, I manages to convince one from me being 46 years old. It was a crapy one though... Peace is a strange thing. I don’t think that peace could exist without war, so consequently peace involves war, which would be totaly contradictonary to it’s own meaning. And there are other meanings of peace. Peace in your heart, a peaceful evening and so on. I will think about a defention tonight. An happyness is so odd to me, I can’t make sense of it at all. I think everyne has to find a definition for himself about it. I am happy if someone else is happy, but others might don’t see it like that.

User	Jeniffer | 2006-03-17 |
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Message	Thank you mae! Finally someone agrees with me. And Sasha, philosophy can be facinating, but I believe in the absolute.

User	ghostknight | 2006-03-16 |
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Message	boy, if it were only that easy. considering that no one knows the ’sovereign’ truth, how can we ever be sure that everything we do isn’t just a figment? how do you know anything is real? truth is defined by experience, therefore for every person on earth, there is a different definition of truth. it’s nice to hope for one level of knowledge, but the obvious truth is that it will never happen. and even if it did, where’s the fun in that? we’d all think alike. that sounds a bit too controlling for my tastes.

User	mae | 2006-03-16 |
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Message	I agree fully with Jennifer’s concept: that truth is sovereign. If one thing is true, it’s opposite cannot be true. Just because we don’t know all of it, or understand it, does not negate the fact that it is true. There are only endless questions concerning the truth of self, life, nature, earth, the universe, and on and on How can you really say that there is no truth? And alternate points of view do not change the fact of truth. Alternate does not mean correct. Communicating it correctly or incorrectly also does not alter the fact of truth. As far as Sasha Lynn’s philosophy class - well, when I cut myself, I bleed real blood, not abstract blood and not a figment of my imagination. When I push on these word processor keys, they really do move up and down and I would be willing to bet that were you to check, my fingerprints would be on them. It’s not all in my mind. mae

User	ghostknight | 2006-03-15 |
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Message	you seem to fall short of the description of ’truth’, though you’ve come extremely close, in my own opinion. i don’t know what the truth is either, but you seem to expect people to figure it out. no one ever can, and lie detectors are extremely unreliable. a trained person can pass a lie detector no matter what you ask them. but that’s not why i posted a reply. i ask you, yara, how would you define ’happiness’ or ’peace’? i ask in good health, only to see any flaws i myself may have, not to point out your own flaws, if you even have any. i dunno, i like to ask questions. some people take offense to that, but those people tend to be unworthy of my time, since they are so sure of their beliefs that they can never accept change. anyway, if knowledge were proof, how would we know we were ever right, unless we knew the absolute truth, and even then, why would we believe those things so strongly that we would wage wars or kill others in that belief? humans are far from understanding, that’s all i wanted to say. truth is beyond any man’s grasp, to think we know only invites destruction.

User	Yara Lorinda | 2006-03-15 |
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Message	I don’t thing that there is any truth at all. Some things change and for some people something is true while others it isn’t. An interesting research was th lie-detector research of...well I forgott the name. He put different persons on a lie detector. First he asked questions from which he definitly knwe the "truth" like there names and there age. Then he asked them "Is there a god" Some of these people were religious and when they were asked to say no, the lie detector showed that they were lieng. The people who did not believe in god were asked to answer the question with yes. This time again, the lie detector showed that the person did not tell the truth. Got the idea? So, there are multiple truth, maybe, but as I believe there is no "truth" of the universe. Some things can not lead to one entirely statement.

User	ghostknight | 2006-03-14 |
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Message	well, having read freya’s post, i can only expand on it: descartes was a wise man, but he was noticably self-centered. the truth, by its own value, should never be understood by one man, unless you want all of the world to be pointless and uninspiring. if you knew the truth, would you be happy, or sad? what would you have to live for?

User	ghostknight | 2006-03-14 |
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Message	i can only ask, how do you define ’truth’?

User	Fantastic Freya | 2006-03-14 |
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Message	Sasha, depends if your philosophies are internalist or externalist. Absolute internalism does require that all things exist only as an extension of or addendum to the self. Most philosophers, notably Descartes, espouse a combination of both. The idea of "one truth" can only exist, however, if one never experiences alternate points of view. What’s more, one person’s truth cannot be perfectly communicated to another in exactly the same manner that it is understood by the first, because no two people have exactly the same experiences and outlooks. That is, not unless they’ve been brought up in the same cave.

User	Sasha Lynn | 2006-03-14 |
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Message	Truth one- the word_ always_ is not relevant in science or anything because it can be assumed that eventually things will change. Truth two- Everything we know is a twisted misconception and half- intrepretation of the real truth because we are human and can’t grasp everything. we examine things to the point where they make sense for us and then never think that perhaps we just_Can’t_get it because we are not capable of thinking that way. Truth three- The universe is abstract and no real so anything you intrepret is a figment of your imagination (so says my Philosophy class)

User	Fantastic Freya | 2006-03-14 |
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Message	There are truths, but like everything else, they are going to be viewed differently depending on where you stand.