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 User  Hallian 
 Topic  Equality 
 Message  Is it possible to have everyone be equal. How do we curb hunger, and make everyone well off? Communism hasn’t worked, does anyone else have ideas? I’ve always thought the key was to make possibilities. We have to make places for people to work in 3rd world countries, so they can better themselves. But I also think it’s not possible to have utter equality, and we don’t want it. Any ideas? Is it feasable?

Hallian 

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 User   kanu | 2006-06-16 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  But in workmanship, complexity and financial status we all give different results so how do those things make us equal when they’ve been inequally proportioned since time immemorial? 

 User   insphered soul | 2006-06-16 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  well, i’d say the exact basis for the equality is workmanship, complexity, and money. after all, money is the root to all evil. so wouldn’t it make us all equal to have it?  

 User   kanu | 2006-06-16 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  variety is intrinsic to the universe - the desire to be equal is an impossible imagination as long as we are bereft of the unifying element of the world - when people desire for equality what is the exact basis for that equality? What is it measured in? 

 User   insphered soul | 2006-06-16 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  meaning? 

 User   kanu | 2006-06-16 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  For better or worse, there is no escaping variety 

 User   insphered soul | 2006-06-16 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  lol 

 User   dismentled | 2006-06-16 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  You too can fail an IQ test, they said since i didn’t know how to spell IQ right that I failed! It was a sad day, but I’ve grown since than, now I can count to 69 butt than I have to turn around.  

 User   kanu | 2006-06-15 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  we are also equal on th eplatform of dying too - death cannot be outlawed by colour or creed 

 User   ghostknight | 2006-03-27 |
 Subject  untitled 
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 User   kanu | 2006-03-27 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  we are all equal in the sense that we are all alive and equality begins on the focus on providing environments for living (as opposed to dying) 

 User   Rokhal | 2006-03-23 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  It’s a little semantic question, Hallian. Depends on how I define the terms.
Equal rights could be equal legal rights, i.e. if a senator kills somebody, he should have the same right to the chair as any other American.
Equal standings could mean equal respect.
But what is respect? It could be professional regard, which can vary, or regard as a fellow human being, which should be unchanging. 

 User   Evil Jesture | 2006-03-23 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  There was a book written about that... I cant remember the name at the moment, but it was about if everyone was equal..
Welcome to the new generation, where the world is plain, we all are white, we are all the same.
Zzzzzz 

 User   Hallian | 2006-03-22 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  How are equal rights and equal standings different? ((btw, I’m just curious to know your opinions, I actually don’t believe it’s possible, but I wondered if anyone did.))

Hallian 

 User   Evil Jesture | 2006-03-22 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Equality is one of the most dombest things I have ever heard of. In what point do u mean everyone equal... That everyone has the same rank and same position in society... think of that. And that everyone is at the same level in everything. That the poems you write would be as good as the next person. Or the drawing that you make is as good as the next. No one is betterlooking than anyone else... We all would just look the same.

My thoughts on equality... that isnt right. Nothing in nature is equal to another. Nothing in this word is like that. Even each ocean is differnt. Should we have equal rights, yes. But should we all be equal within our standards in society, no 

 User   Yara Lorinda | 2006-03-22 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Thanks wolfstar, that was what I was saying. Equality is a nice thought, but it will always remain as a thought.
And after all inequality is part of nature.
 

 User   WolfStar | 2006-03-22 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  My opinion: equality isn’t really possible in practice; only in theory.

I think that humans have a need to believe in a system of hierarchies. We see life in a series of levels: the plants are below the animals, which are below us, which are below God, etc. That sense of hierarchy, I believe, extends onto our own species. It is how we can decide who has to haul off dead bodies for a living and who gets to sit on their ass in an office.

In a way, inequality isn’t a purely human affectation. Animals have hierarchical systems within their species just as we do. It is how order is kept. Why do you suppose direct democracies have not lasted as long as republics? If everyone has an equal say and an equal standing, nothing will ever get done.

Not to say that I don’t appreciate or fight for equality in society. I do. It is a moral ethic worthy of the effort even if unanchievable in the total sense of the word. Every day that we make the gaps of inequality smaller, things improve. I just think that realistically it is most probable that some forms of inequality will persist, even by those who seek to change it (ex: Party officials in Communist China during its rise in the 50’s.)

Equality is like world peace, human rights, or the end of world hunger. These are goals that deserve the effort by virtue of the fact that they are the right thing to do, regardless of whether or not they can be achieved in their fullest sense. 

 User   kanu | 2006-03-21 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  If you want equality you have to look and see what is that we all have in common - and if all you have to see is the material body you will not see reasons for equality - only politics and diplomacy - in otherwords equality is the exclusive property of those who have properly practiced spiritual life and since such a vision is extremely rare in this world peace is an impossible imagination - hence the closest you can come to it is a society governed by religious principles - for instance if people were intrinsically vegetarian there would be less violence in this world because the laws of karma would ease up a bit 

 User   Toxic_Rayne | 2006-03-21 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  I would hope not...I would be happy if I was homeless and still had my friends and family...that’s all I need to be happy...but surviving is another story, lol. 

 User   Fantastic Freya | 2006-03-21 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Hallian, by the time my mother was 21 she also had two kids (or as close to), she had 3 by the time she was 25. My father held various "minimum wage" jobs after he left the Navy. We grew up poor and I would change nothing about that.

And they’ve been married for 34 years. So yeah, that’s "taking care of". Not everyone defines happiness as financial security. 

 User   Toxic_Rayne | 2006-03-21 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Good question, it never did and never will.


*Toxic* 

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