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User	Toxic_Rayne | 2006-05-14 |
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Message	I think poems are poems, and essays are essays, that’s why they have different names, lol *Tox*

User	DavidHirt | 2006-05-11 |
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Message	The person you share your artistic find with. Since usually you can’t interact the artist.

User	joeyalphabet | 2006-05-11 |
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Message	I don’t understand. Who’s the third person?

User	DavidHirt | 2006-05-10 |
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Message	All right, so it wasn’t much of a joke.

User	DavidHirt | 2006-05-06 |
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Message	How ever, the more I write on the subject, the more I realize that the appreciation and acknowledgement of what a poem is ultimately come down to an agreement between the writer and the reader. But then a third person may be ultimately needed for the writer and reader to share that understanding with and to acknowledge it. Hah! Poetry is Trinitarian!

User	DavidHirt | 2006-05-06 |
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Message	"but we must have some rules to play by to keep poetry truly poetic. " I would tend to agree. And if not rules of poetry, at least a list of tools that are used that defines what poetry is. We’ve started that. We’ve talked about lineation, sound, meter. These are what seperate ’Poems" from other writing styles. If a poem doesn’t have these things... it could just as easily be any other writing style. However, if we accept that. then the things we want to associate with poetry: Idea, emotion, and rhythm, are cut out because any writing style relies on these things as well. Novels have rhythms as do essays and plays. They all express ideas, they all need emotion to connect to us. And the more we pare it down, even those fall apart in the long run because paragraphing could be seen as lineation and other writing could make use of sound as well as meter, as the plays of Mamet will try to argue.

User	Jeniffer | 2006-05-02 |
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Message	Well, I think a poem is like an essay, but more or less easy to write, depending. Some poems are not worthy to be called anything, you know. Poetry is pretty self defined. Perhaps a poem is like an essay written of the soul, while an official essay is a bit more technical. I believe that anyone who writes poetry in any form, and believes he has the right to call himself a poet should be required to at least research classic poetry, not as much the history, but the poetry itself. I know, I know, poetic license, I myself take advantage of the freedom of modern free verse, but we must have some rules to play by to keep poetry truly poetic.

User	joeyalphabet | 2006-05-02 |
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Message	I suppose that makes sense. I was just wondering...

User	geherald | 2006-05-02 |
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Message	a metaphorical essay? i guess you could have one, but what would the point of that be? ... an essay is supposed to explain a point, evaluate history, or something like that... you want to define it in the most simplistic way possible so no one gets confused... with a metaphor someone may interpret it differently and thus not understand the intended intention of the essay... a poem on the other hand is intended to play to the readers interpretation, allowing anyone who reads it to take thier own meaning from it, whether or not they understand the poem as the poet intended... and that is how i understand the differences to be... and least for this post... PEACE and LOVE, greg

User	joeyalphabet | 2006-05-02 |
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Message	Is there any reason an essay couldn’t be metaphorical too?

User	DavidHirt | 2006-05-02 |
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Message	A very good question, but boy did you just open up a can of worms.

User	geherald | 2006-05-02 |
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Message	okay so i think it has to be this way... in the context of a subject, a poem is a metaphor and an essay is an explaination... lineation and meter and verse and rhyme can be found in either a poem or an essay so none are relevant here... the only TRUE difference between poems and essays are whatever the reader decides (or the so-called EXPERTS)... to go along with this brilliant discourse, let me ask the question that needs to be answered before we can truly know the difference here... WHAT IS A POEM??? - anyone want to define it?

User	Toxic_Rayne | 2006-05-01 |
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Message	I’ve never seen a classic movie or read a classic book, lol. *Tox*

User	DavidHirt | 2006-05-01 |
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Message	Oh. OK

User	mae | 2006-04-30 |
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Message	David, I’m simply teasing you. mae

User	DavidHirt | 2006-04-30 |
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Message	sorry... "Thou heaven born maid"

User	DavidHirt | 2006-04-30 |
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Message	Think about it, mae, have you ever heard someone talk about poetic justice? Or a poetic killing? Or have you ever watched the Pirates of Penzance. "Hail Poetry, though heaven born maid. Thou gildest e’en the pirates trade." they aren’t talking about poems. Poems are written. Poetry is a combined sense of rightness and beauty... Grace.

User	mae | 2006-04-30 |
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Message	I would say poems and poetry are different things, but that may just be me. Yup. That’s just you! 8) mae

User	DavidHirt | 2006-04-29 |
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Message	It’s a movie, Toxic. A Classic :)

User	Toxic_Rayne | 2006-04-29 |
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Message	haha, yeah, essay aren’t that emotional. But if we’re talking about the kind of essay that David is talking about there are certain exceptions, true. I’ve never heard of "A Christmas story". Is it a book, or what? lol, sorry, I’m not very intuned to stuff. *Tox*