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User	Toxic_Rayne | 2006-06-23 |
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Message	same here, helena get on space and check out my new icons, they’re morbid and bloody! *tox*

User	supergirl_in_oh | 2006-06-23 |
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Message	i was only like 3

User	dismentled | 2006-06-23 |
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Message	Baptism, or accepting the lord as your saviour(what it represents) is supposed to be a conscious decision on your behlaf, not your parents

User	supergirl_in_oh | 2006-06-23 |
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Message	i was born and baptised into cristianity and never really was that religous

User	| 2006-06-23 |
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Message	I mean, I was born into and batised to into Christianity, but the more things I hear at church the less and less I agree and like what they say. *tox*

User	mae | 2006-06-22 |
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Message	dismentled, I would not even begin to hazard a guess as to those people’s faith. As I said, followers of Christ are subject to the same issues as the rest of the world. mae

User	kanu | 2006-06-22 |
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Message	So there are all different grades of faith - birth in a certain family or being rubber stamped a designation can be helpful but are not essential - pure faith in god is symptomised by being able to take shelter of him in happiness and distress - everyone succeeds and fails to different degrees

User	dismentled | 2006-06-22 |
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Message	Fair enough, however I recently got out of rehab, in which there were 2 ministes, and 3 preachers kids, now where do you suppose they were in there faith?

User	mae | 2006-06-22 |
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Message	I’ve never had a desire to cut myself, nor do I drink, but, in the past I’ve struggled with depression. I am a follower of Christ, to my core. From what I understand of it, cutting is a response to an emotional or mental problem. Being a Christian does not mean that we don’t suffer from these same issues. We aren’t possessed by demons if we are truly Christians, but even giants in the Lord suffered from depression. A great example is Elijah, that famous prophet who took on the priests of Baal and Queen Jezebel. Elijah won every battle, with the Lord doing the work, of course, but when it was all over, Jezebel was threatening to take his life and he ran. He was scared, he was tired - and he was very depressed. He sat down under a tree and asked God to kill him. Being a follower of God does not mean that we don’t suffer from the same mental illnesses that the rest of the world does. When you are in the throes of an emotional or mental illness, your responses are often off-base as well. Thus, people, including Christians, turn to cutting, drinking, prescription drugs, etc. mae

User	BusterLILblock | 2006-06-22 |
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Message	in almostt any religon you have they wont allow it

User	supergirl_in_oh | 2006-06-22 |
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Message	he loved me to but there is the key word loved. he doesn’t give ahit now weather we live or die he gave up on us so i gave up on him

User	Aelfled | 2006-06-22 |
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Message	Tox, why do you think you’re a Christian? I mean, I’m not saying that you aren’t, but I just sorta wonder what you are basing your belief on. You don’t have to be "overly religious" to be a Christian. I’m not "overly religious", yet I do my best to serve Christ because He loved me before I even loved Him. To tell you the truth, I struggle all the time with the same things y’all do. I struggle with sin, too, the only difference between me and alot of you is that I have a reason to struggle. I have a cause. Tell me, all you who don’t believe in God, do you struggle with doing right and wrong? Why? For morality reasons? Where does your morality come from? Why do you think morality is important? For what reason do you struggle with right and wrong? You don’t serve anyone (except I believe you are a slave to sin until you are saved by the grace of God), so why do you want to do the right thing? Or do you even care what’s right and wrong? Dismentled, I agree with you on some points and disagree with you on some points. I agree that alot of Christian’s do get drunk and are still Christian’s. What I think about that is they aren’t very far along in there faith. They are still tempted and still give in, but through it I believe that Christ (if the drunk truly wants to change, which that want can only occur through the work of the Holy Spirit) will help that drunk grow. Same with cutters.

User	supergirl_in_oh | 2006-06-21 |
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Message	i don’t ever i go to church but i don’t have a choice

User	| 2006-06-20 |
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Message	I do sometimes............ *tox*

User	supergirl_in_oh | 2006-06-20 |
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Message	i’m not religous at all i don’t pray......i don’t say i’m sorry for my sins and i don’t care

User	| 2006-06-20 |
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Message	I’m Chrsitian, but Christ doesn’t take away my pain at all....I’m not a very religious person then again... *tox*

User	dismentled | 2006-06-19 |
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Message	" Christian’s don’t need to cut to relieve any pain, because our pain is relieved by Christ Himself" That’s a bold statement. and due to phrasing an interesting arguement. IN one way you’re right, they don’t "need to", however obviousily there are ones who do, just the same in being an alcoholic. Christians don’t need to drink to relieve their pain, yet so many do. But you must also bare in mind, the degrees of faith christians have. Not everybody can give it up so easily(not to say that you did). I do however I agree with you on the "satan" thing, if there is such a being, I would find that cutting like drinking, and drugs ultimately bring you down(for me at least)

User	Aelfled | 2006-06-19 |
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Message	Christian’s don’t need to cut to relieve any pain, because our pain is relieved by Christ Himself. Sure, there are times when you feel as if you are going off the deep end, but He draws you back into His loving arms. I know that sounds cheesey and cliche, but for me, it’s not. To tell you the truth, I used to cut. I am a Christian and was a Christian when I did cut, but through that experience, Christ led me more to Him. I found out that cutting was taking my eyes off of Christ and basically telling God that He wasn’t enough to solve my pain. He wasn’t enough to take care of me and I had to have some other way out. In other words, I was using this obsession as another god. We all know that you can’t have two masters, you want to always serve one more than the other. For me, I learned that I wanted to serve my God, not Satan. For I believe that cutting is one of Satan’s tools to bring people down. This is my take on it :)

User	Chell | 2006-06-19 |
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Message	Can you be a Christian and cut? That’s a tough question. In the bible there are a couple mentiones of cutting in the Old Testament but they have to do with the old concept of blood sacrifice to God. (In other words, it was before Jesus fulfilled the need for blood sacrifices.) In the New Testament there is a story in Mark about a man who was possed of demons. He couldn’t be kept chained or ironed. He lived among the tombs. When Jesus asked the mans name the replied that he was named Legion because there were many demons living inside . Jesus cast out the demons into pigs which then drowned themselves in a nearby lake. The man was better and stopped cutting himself with rocks. Unfortunately, back in J.C.’s day people weren’t so stressed out that they were slicing open their own flesh. And because no one was doing it back then, it wasn’t an issue Jesus addressed specifically. But here’s my thoughts on the subject... Jesus wants us to love each other- as we love ourselves. Now, since Jesus wants us to love others as we love ourselves, then that also means that we should treat ourselves as kindly as we would treat others. Would you cut other’s people’s skin? Would you slice another person’s thighs, or breasts, or wrists? If not, then Jesus doesn’t want you doing to yourself. I think cutting has become a physical way some people deal with stress. It’s seen as a release from the pain people keep inside. It causes damage to the bodies that we were given by God. Cutting doesn’t eliminate the causes of the stress. And it’s not treating yourself well. It’ not a loving thing to do. I don’t see how being a cutter makes it impossible to be a Christian, but it is my opinion that Jesus wouldn’t want us hurting ourselves. Just my thoughts on the matter.

User	dismentled | 2006-06-19 |
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Message	"wanting to carve up a masterpiece on your arm bleeding yourself free"-cliche. I know all too well the fealing you’re attempting to describe. I can’t tell you what to do in this aspect. It’s kinda ironic, I use to hate when my ex did it; I’d get pissed; and though i’m sure I still would becasue I still care, before I got upset becasue I couldn’t understand, unfortunately now I do.