| User | Jeniffer | | Topic | Feminism | | Message | I am a woman; I turned sixteen the first of this month, an I have never felt more like one. I am very happy to be one, and maybe it’s because i’m biased, but I think we have it better off than men; we have better looking bodies, we get to carry the children, and women have it better than ever today. Different kinds of beauty are being excepted, and it’s long been recognized that we can be just as strong and succesfull as men.
So why the heck do we need feminists? If they want equality with men, why aren’t they satisfied with the near goddess statis that our society and let alone media gives them? Maybe it’s because they don’t want equality, they want lordship. For some reason, while it is wrong to stereotype and objectify women, it isn’t wrong to portray men as stupid, slobbering, lazy, dirty minded useless scoundrels. The dictionary defines sexism as prejudice and descrimination against women; why don’t they call it malism then? Shouldn’t sexism go both ways? There’s no such thing as a sexist woman? Just because some men really are jerks, in fact a lot of them are, doesn’t mean they all are! Some women are dip brain tight skirts. In fact a lot of them are.
Many blame the Christian views of the bible for the treatemt of women in history as subserviant slaves who should be kept barefoot and pregnant. Does anyone consider the fact that there are two books dedicated to and named after a woman in the bible? (Esther and Ruth.) Esther is one of my heriones; she was intelligent, courageous, beautiful, and humble. Many of the favored woman in the bible were described as very beautiful, and the bible honors the courage, intelligence, and strength of character of them. Beauty seemed to be a mark of God’s favor on these women. Women have a special place in the bible that they would not have if the bible condoned such treatment.
The problem with feminism is that it doesn’t appreciate the blessings women have.
They want to make life better for women? They aren’t doing a very good job, in my opinion.
The blessings women have:
.Inner and outer physical beauty and grace
.The abilitity to carry and nurse children
.femininmity ( duh)
.The ability to evoke and return the love of a man
What radical feminist lesbians do :
.Dress, act and talk like men
.reject the natural and traditional ideas of family
.Don’t shave their armpits
.Marry other women!
I think that real men are strong, courageous, unique, rich and beautiful creatures, and there is no need to reject heterosexuality just because some men are low in quality and short on character.
Why even be a woman at all if you’re not going to do any of the things that women and only women can do? I say that it takes a lot more strength and character to be a loyal, hardworking wife who respects her husbands’ wishes without sacrificing her own mind and heart than it takes to be a rough, masculine woman who has a mustache and a girlfriend. It looks to me like feminists are more jealous of men than they are proud to be women.
I am a woman and that is my opinion. |
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| User | burnitdown | 2006-11-04 | | | Subject | war | | Message | Maybe it’s because feminism is aggressively anti-man? Women do get paid less, but that may have more to do with every gender/race favoring its own. |
| User | Jeniffer | 2006-11-03 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Oh, and well said, onetruesmartass. |
| User | Jeniffer | 2006-11-03 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | BTW, I agree completely with geherald; actually what I am against is not feminists but false feminists. My point here is that I am for women’s rights; I am for equality. What I am not for is the radicals who bash men and at the same time act like men and call themselves feminists. I am not for the woman who believes that it is her right to kill the human being she would give birth to. I am not for the woman who is against the right of a woman to WANT to be a homemaker and ’submissive’ wife.
That is why I wouldn’t vote for Ms. Clinton just so we can have a woman president. |
| User | onetruesmartass | 2006-11-01 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Ouch, why are you so angry? So what if someone else wants to be a hard-core feminist and hates men? Not my or your problem.
I will agree, howeve, that if women want to be equal, they need to start treating men as equals. And at the same time, men have to want to be treated equally, which means complete sharing of child raising, housework and all those other little details that make life. Sometimes I do have to wonder if some men act the way they do because society expects it of them. That blame lies on both sexes shoulders.
To be honest, we are never going to be completely equal. Men are stronger physically, are more athletically inclined and are usually more apt to take risks (good and bad) Women, on the other hand, are more nurturing, pay attention to smaller details and are more free to demonstrate emotion. We aren’t the same and shouldn’t be treated as such, but we should be respected for our different strengths and abilities.
*onetruesmartass* |
| User | cabbalistic | 2006-10-11 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Outrageous...and a little amusing. :) |
| User | Blue Monk | 2006-10-11 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | LIB’s a true MCP, but at least honest to his own way of thinking. Faced with such a prospect, most men are powerless. |
| User | alteredlife | 2006-10-09 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Lol. |
| User | mae | 2006-10-04 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | In prayer. mae |
| User | geherald | 2006-09-26 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | First let me tell you all a few things about myself up front.
Number 1, I am a feminist. It is out of respect for all the women who have come and gone before me. Its out of respect for my mother, my grandmother, my sisters, my friends, my future wife. I am a feminist because all decent men and women should be.
Number 2, I am a straight male, college student, athlete, and more. I dont have to be gay to love women, respect women, nor do I have to be a lesbian.
And number three, a lot of what I read in this post was "spout" (as its been called here) from one corner or another. And there is nothing wrong with spout, other than the fact that educated persons should simply over look the origin of the language and use a better argument to counter it.
Jennifer, I understand that you are a young women, not much more than a girl really, and you don’t really understand all the things that feminists fight for every day. It is really about equality and not just equality for women. Feminist groups are at the forefront of the gay rights movement, the civil rights movement, the voting rights movement, the youth rights movement, and numerous other causes, too many to name here. Feminism is not about throwing away traditions that are loved and revered, its about throwing off the chains that bind us in the past, in a time where you’d have been married off to a man you probably didn’t know by the time you were 14 and by the time you were 16 you would have been expected to have had at least one child. Feminism isn’t just radical, man-hating lesbians trying to get handouts, but men and women fighting together so that women are not second class citizens with less rights than a man’s dog.
Okay so I know that might be a bit much, but I felt I had to say it all. Hopefully some of you will understand a little bit better the enormity of the femnist movement, and will have the decent human nature to be a feminist yourselves. |
| User | Jeniffer | 2006-09-25 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Yeah, not all lesbians are like that, i’m sure. The descriptions I listed were blatant stereotypes, albeit often true ones. And I have no problem with the kind of feminist described by Magnolia Steele; I could call myself a feminist in that case. As long as being a feminist actually appreciates the things that truly make a woman a woman and don’t exclude men in any way, I’m fine with that.
And I know that looks don’t matter at all in the end, but what’s wrong with saying that in some areas, women look better than men, if it doesn’t matter anyway?
All I’m really saying is that I like women the way God made us, and I like men the way God made them.
Thanks for all of your opinions; as long as we all still have them, there’s hope. :)
Mostly. |
| User | Toxic_Rayne | 2006-09-23 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | I would appreciate it if a man opened the door for me, but I wouldn’t like it so much if he tried to do everything for me, I’m capable of doing things myself as well. Not to say that I do not appreciate courtesy, so to speak.
*tox* |
| User | mae | 2006-09-22 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | jonsmithy, you encountered a young woman who simply hasn’t learned how to accept courtesy. I’m sure if you had been a woman of equal size to her (or larger),
she would have had no problem accepting the help. Please don’t be down on feminism because of her rude response. I like to think of it as the Three C’s - courtesy, convenience and consideration. If I’m carrying something heavy and a man offers to help, I’m all for it. The flip side of that is if a man has his hands too full and needs a little help managing his load, then that’s where I come in. That’s what makes us equal - not refusing help when we obviously need it. Your young lady has a few things yet to learn. mae |
| User | jonsmithy | 2006-09-22 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | What pisses me off is when feminism starts meaning I’m not allowed to be nice to women. Since when is holding open doors and offering to help carry things such a horrible thing. There’s a girl I knew who wouldn’t let me help her carry a 50 pound bag up a flight of stairs because "men and women should be equal". Excuse me hon, I’m 6’2, 200 pounds and athletic. You’re 5’4 and skinny. I don’t think we’ll be identical in this particualr instance.
I’m just trying to be nice. I agree it’s horrible that women still don’t have as many opportunites as men, especially in the business world, but when women start discriminating against men we’ve got a whole other problem going on. |
| User | dismentled | 2006-09-21 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | damn! we actaully had this subject in class last-night; akwardly enough the teacher said i had one of the most "femenists" opinions she’s heard; yeah; don’t ask. Anyways the roll of the woman is ever-changing in todays society; and i see nothing wrong with that. There’s no reason woman shouldn’t be treated the same; but at the same time that also eliminates "chivalry" and surprise, surprise; woman want both*shakes head*. And mind you that 2 things; 1. not all feminists are lesbians; 2 not all lesbians are femenitst. That is larelgy misunderstood. Fair right’s for homosexuality(which shouldn’t even be a problem, but is cause of all the god-damn "chritians" in fuckin’ office") does not denote feminism. And I’m not even gonna go into sex-changes and how born males, who turn to females can have children(complicated, and expensive; but yeah). Besides why would either gender want to pigeon-hold themselves to anything? |
| User | Toxic_Rayne | 2006-09-20 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | so, you see gay people getting it on in public...wow...
*tox* |
| User | mae | 2006-09-20 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | It really shouldn’t matter what goes on behind closed doors
People keep saying this, but the fact is it doesn’t stay behind closed doors. mae |
| User | Toxic_Rayne | 2006-09-20 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | I highly respect your opinion, but I will say one thing. Not all lesbians are like that. I even know some and are friends with some even, and they don’t fit all of the descriptions you listed. My friends shave their arm-pits, act like girls, want to adopt a child with a woman they love. And surprisingly, I’m okay with that. It doesn’t make them bad people. They make great firends, and one of the main reasons I can remian friends with them without worrying is; they know where I stand. I like guys, and only guys, and they accept that perfectly.
I find nothing wrong with lesbians, bisexulals, etc. They are people, like you, the only difference is their life stlye and sexual preference. It may seem like a major difference to some, but really it’s not. I thought it was at first to, but then once I got to know them, they weren’t that different from me.
It really shouldn’t matter what goes on behind closed doors as far as sexual preference goes. It’s there life, if it works for them, great, if it doesn’t work for you, great. Oh well, move on. They still love like you do, some even want a family like you do, but not "like" you do; not in the same ways.
*tox* |
| User | mae | 2006-09-20 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Yep. mae |
| User | Blue Monk | 2006-09-20 | | | Subject | Maybe not - | | Message | http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/19/science/19women.html?ex=1316318400&en=65e8697636b78dac&ei=5089&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss
"Women in science and engineering are hindered not by lack of ability but by bias and “outmoded institutional structures” in academia, an expert panel reported yesterday. The panel, convened by the National Academy of Sciences, said that in an era of global competition the nation could not afford “such underuse of precious human capital.”
Just to let you know where you (still) stand. But you knew that already. |
| User | Blue Monk | 2006-09-20 | | | Subject | Progress? | | Message | |
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