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User	dismentled | 2007-03-26 |
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Message	well punishment for massochist could simply be pain deprivation. And mind you massochist often only "enjoy" pain, when it is either a. self-afflicted or b. afflicted in a controlled setting. So to kick somebody in the balls randomely cause they did something stupid, is probabily not something they enjoyed, also, they’re being punished to point out aand lessen stupidity, so it would only seem evident than most people don’t realize common idiocracy, so it would in affect not be expected.

User	silent_death12 | 2007-03-26 |
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Message	I don’t want lesser consequences... just...altered ones all around; a small shock is not enough for the masochists and maybe ineffective for the rest of them..

User	dismentled | 2007-03-26 |
Subject	untitled
Message	you’d be no worse off than me, and besides your a minor, lesser consequences!

User	silent_death12 | 2007-03-26 |
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Message	you just hate me that much? we’ve been through this... had such an amendment been passed; I’d be screwed. really. just frequent, minor stupidity + the occasional more severe instances.... yep. thanks alot >.<

User	dismentled | 2007-03-26 |
Subject	untitled
Message	An amendment that would make people more complacent?!? I’d be 1 first in line to vote against it! I’d go for an amendment, that would make stupidity punishible! Pending on the severity of the stupidity, and how often the individuals been cited, anything from a fine to a good jolt from a stun gun!

User	Jeniffer | 2007-03-25 |
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Message	I was think something along the lines of....an amendment that makes it easier to pass an amendment, or one that says people should argue less and agree more....but no one would agree on those enough to get them passed, so what’s the point....

User	Azuire | 2007-02-26 |
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Message	The same thing can go for other citizens. Actually the definition of citizenship only gives you the right to vote in that country. You can be a national and still not have voting rights. Yeah perhaps also consider dual citizenship, because a citizen may want/need to serve in the army, what’s the point of having two armies to serve? What if both countries end up going to war? Hypothetical situation. A suggestion I’d have for that amendment is if the child who is born on U.S. soil has parents holding another country’s citizenship, maybe they may want to make him/her a permanent resident/citizen until 12 years old or something and then let him/her choose. That’s currently what the government here is trying to implement..it seems viable enough. Cheers

User	Jeniffer | 2007-02-25 |
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Message	That’s a good idea; I’ll put some real thought to that one. Thanks. I think we shouldn’t be so general about the term, "U.S citizen". It shouldn’t just mean someone who is born here. A U.S citizen should speak English, understand U.S history, have knowlegde and cognition of our system of government, and Im sure there should be some other qualifications. After all, no one is born with all that....hahaha

User	Azuire | 2007-02-25 |
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Message	I’ll keep this short since I’m in a hurry. I have a suggestion for the one on Citizenship (since coincidentally I’m doing illegal immigration for essay this month) is not make every person born on U.S. soil a US citizen. There’s someone I know whose whole family are Indonesian citizens, but he’s a US citizen simply because of freak chance that he was born on holiday (prematurely). So I’d give a second thought to that law.. Cheers

User	Jeniffer | 2007-02-24 |
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Message	Ugh, jeeeeze...i should have known I’d get that kind of attitude from some of you guys..actually, I did know, but I can’t help that. I know this stuff can be boring, but it can be interesting too. This is the stuff that makes it possible for us to live in a free country, so the least we can do is appreciate it! Don’t be intellectual wimps..... And, yeah...about that gay marraige amendment.....I respect your opinion, and I’m sure that there are already lots of people planning to get that amendment passed.....but I think most of the people on this forum know where I stand on that issue......so I’m not going to reiterate it. It’s good that I’m getting some signs of intellegent life, though. A real suggestion! Wow!

User	MyX | 2007-02-24 |
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Message	Uhh...yeah. I feel like I’m back in one of those little orange chairs with the holes in the back of them in high school, thumbing my balls and waiting to go home to play more video games. MyX

User	geherald | 2007-02-23 |
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Message	The next amendment, #28, needs to deal with sexual rights. It is past time that this country deals with this issue one way or another, and here is what I propose. Amendment 28: Sexual Rights 1. The Rights of Citizens of the United States shall be in no way infringe upon based on sexual prefrence. 2. The Government of the United States and all the states within, shall as of ratification, define marraige as a legal bond between two people, regardless of sex, who pledge to honor that bond. 3. Congress shall have to power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. Now, I know that many people do not agree with me here, but fuck them. People are people no matter what, and as long as someone is discriminated against by the government of individual states the only way to protect them is to pass Federal Legistation with an amendment being the most powerful. So I say pass it and move on. PEACE and LOVE, Gregory

User	Jeniffer | 2007-02-22 |
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Message	I think that we should look at the latest amendments for some ideas; I personally don’t have any problems with the first ten, except I might have a suggestion on one of them, which I’ll bring up later. Because I’m, so far, getting a rather uneducated vibe from the forum ESers, I’m going to just post all the amendments here ( not to insult anyone) Oh, and by the way, the first ten amendments here are what make up the bill of rights: Amendment I - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Amendment II - Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Amendment III - Quartering of Soldiers. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. Amendment IV - Search and Seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Amendment V - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings. Ratified 12/15/1791. No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. Amendment VI - Right to Speedy Trial, Confrontation of Witnesses. Ratified 12/15/1791. In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence. Amendment VII - Trial by Jury in Civil Cases. Ratified 12/15/1791. In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law. Amendment VIII - Cruel and Unusual Punishment. Ratified 12/15/1791. Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted. Amendment IX - Construction of Constitution. Ratified 12/15/1791. The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. Amendment X - Powers of the States and People. Ratified 12/15/1791. The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Amendment XI - Judicial Limits. Ratified 2/7/1795. The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State. Amendment XII - Choosing the President, Vice-President. Ratified 6/15/1804. The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States. Amendment XIII - Slavery Abolished. Ratified 12/6/1865. 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. Amendment XIV - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State. 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability. 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void. 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article. Amendment XV - Race No Bar to Vote. Ratified 2/3/1870. 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude. 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. Amendment XVI - Status of Income Tax Clarified. Ratified 2/3/1913. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration. Amendment XVII - Senators Elected by Popular Vote. Ratified 4/8/1913. History The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof, for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures. When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct. This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amendment XVIII - Liquor Abolished. Ratified 1/16/1919. Repealed by Amendment XXI, 12/5/1933. History 1. After one year from the ratification of this article the manufacture, sale, or transportation of intoxicating liquors within, the importation thereof into, or the exportation thereof from the United States and all territory subject to the jurisdiction thereof for beverage purposes is hereby prohibited. 2. The Congress and the several States shall have concurrent power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. 3. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amendment XIX - Women’s Suffrage. Ratified 8/18/1920. History The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amendment XX - Presidential, Congressional Terms. Ratified 1/23/1933. 1. The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3d day of January, of the years in which such terms would have ended if this article had not been ratified; and the terms of their successors shall then begin. 2. The Congress shall assemble at least once in every year, and such meeting shall begin at noon on the 3d day of January, unless they shall by law appoint a different day. 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified. 4. The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them. 5. Sections 1 and 2 shall take effect on the 15th day of October following the ratification of this article. 6. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission. Amendment XXI - Amendment XVIII Repealed. Ratified 12/5/1933. 1. The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed. 2. The transportation or importation into any State, Territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use therein of intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited. 3. The article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by conventions in the several States, as provided in the Constitution, within seven years from the date of the submission hereof to the States by the Congress. Amendment XXII - Presidential Term Limits. Ratified 2/27/1951. 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term. 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress. Amendment XXIII - Presidential Vote for District of Columbia. Ratified 3/29/1961. 1. The District constituting the seat of Government of the United States shall appoint in such manner as the Congress may direct: A number of electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives in Congress to which the District would be entitled if it were a State, but in no event more than the least populous State; they shall be in addition to those appointed by the States, but they shall be considered, for the purposes of the election of President and Vice President, to be electors appointed by a State; and they shall meet in the District and perform such duties as provided by the twelfth article of amendment. 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. Amendment XXIV - Poll Tax Barred. Ratified 1/23/1964. 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax. 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amendment XXV - Presidential Disability and Succession. Ratified 2/10/1967. 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President. 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress. 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President. 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President. Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office. Amendment XXVI - Voting Age Set to 18 Years. Ratified 7/1/1971. 1. The right of citizens of the United States, who are eighteen years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of age. 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation. Amendment XXVII - Limiting Congressional Pay Increases. Ratified 5/7/1992. No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

User	Jeniffer | 2007-02-22 |
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Message	Hmm...interesting. I think, though, that any amendment on that issue, whether it leans to one side or the other, would be way to controversial to ever get passed, i’m afraid. An amendment has to have enough people agree on it to get passed, and right now, NO one agrees on that amendment. All I’m rooting for is that no one takes away the rights specified in the Bill of Rights, including the right to bear arms.

User	Azuire | 2007-02-21 |
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Message	I don’t live in the US, but isn’t there’s something in the Bill of Rights about firearms? Why not make the Senate and/or House do something definitive about that. They never seem to agree whether they want firearms or not. Cheers

User	Jeniffer | 2007-02-18 |
Subject	untitled
Message	I don’t know what it will be yet; that’s why I posted this. Surely there’s someone out there with a nagging complaint about our constitution...... C’mon, people, while I’m young and this is still a free country.....

User	Avril54 | 2007-02-17 |
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Message	....... um, teh amendment should be to kills Russel and Ryan. ......Or maybe not an immiediate death to them, perhaps a slow torture.............yes............... 0.o

User	joeyalphabet | 2007-02-17 |
Subject	untitled
Message	What’s the amendment going to be?