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 User  Outlaw 
 Topic  Ronswords 
 Message  What do you all think about his buying the site? How do yar fells, how du yar think the sites going to change? Must we all now become webmaster fearing users?
 

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 User   MyX | 2007-04-14 |
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 Message  Can I come?


Sike....

Elites 4eva DAAAAWWWWWWGGSSS.....

*passes out*

MyX 

 User   Ronswords | 2007-04-14 |
 Subject  Hi 
 Message  DQ

I am in the process of starting up my own poetry site
If you want Pm me if you have any advice or any good ideas

That actually is for everyone

Im gonna start up a new thread in this forum asking people about what they would wanna see in a site
Please respond if you can
God Bless
Ron 

 User   GiveMeTheGun | 2007-04-14 |
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 Message  you got the dough? ;) 

 User   dismentled | 2007-04-13 |
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 Message  Ok, so let me get this straight someone who goes "ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz" about every day or so on one thread or another, and has a pic of Gumby spankings pokey(I think that’s his name) is trying to talk to me about maturity, and pedophilia? Uh-huh, right, that’s logical. You know a few things, first if you’re going to try and discredit me, at least have the dignity to do some research, cause I have way worse writes (morally lacking ones) that would have been MUCH better examples. Like ones of rape, and murder, even of family members like mother and sisters (obviously not auto-biographical) that would have supported your statement a lot better! And the one you picked actually had a good moral don’t be a slut and sleep around (just in case you didn’t get it!) and you know even my-ex (as in my sons mom) who has more reason than anybody else to hate me, doubt me, not trust me, etc. still comes and views my stuff, often printing things out, and sees nothing wrong with it (the pic, w/the writes). And considering I’ll have my associates in psychology in 2 weeks, and a Masters by the time I’m done, I think I might know a little more than you about pedophiles, although I admittibally haven’t received my information from TV. And have actually met with and interviewed pedophiles. And you know what, I’d be willing to bet you don’t actually know what maturity means here you go though MATURITY:” the condition of being ripe, fully aged, or fully grown, especially mentally or emotionally" and you know what; you’re actually right, I’m no where near done growing, especially mentally and emotionally; you only stop growing when you die, and deaths not ready for me yet.
"Then your hero dismentled said something about you being one of the only few talented prospects on this site." I’m wondering, how is/was that an insult. Or are you just jealous that someone actually has her "teenybopper" back? You know I don’t know if I’m her hero, but the bottom line is I stick up for whom I think is right, plain and simple; regardless of whatever, if any personal feelings towards the individual, if you recall I even agreed with you to an extent on an alternative thread. Also, I’m wondering, since when did opinions denote stupidity or intellect? An opinion is nothing more than a perspective on something. And saying someone’s opinion is "uneducated" is no better than saying it’s wrong, and that’s simply not accurate. 

 User   silent_death12 | 2007-04-13 |
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 Message  I wouldn’t have been mad if you had just told me to back off,
and I probably wouldn’t have felt it unjustified....
Finn? I wouldn’t really know O_o 

 User   Ronswords | 2007-04-13 |
 Subject  Hi 
 Message  Thannk You for the compliment Cabbalistic

But to be Honest its like I said
I reeally dont care what people think of me
Though you did call me a swell guy and like I said for that im Thankful it really dosent matter to me what people think

And HK
You said you have known Chell for 19 years and have never heard her lie
Well what about her saying I said she would go to hell
When she found out I dont believe in hell she ran right away from that one
So obviously you have known her to lie because she so much as admitted she lied right there

God Bless
Ron 

 User   silent_death12 | 2007-04-13 |
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 Message  DQ;
hate to be indecisive but I retract that apology anyway; don’t feel the need to reply to it. you don’t deserve my justification; your views are too invalid to take to heart
there any way you could just....stop? let it be?
and if you’re mad at me kindly stick to insulting one person you know nothing about at a time. or is that too much to ask as well? 

 User   silent_death12 | 2007-04-13 |
 Subject  to DQ 
 Message  OK look, I’m sorry, about forum; you’re absolutely right in at least a few respects; I did attack you for picking on Finn unnecessarily, and for all know he might not have taken what you said personally to begin with, that was highly immature and I’d like to apologize. I’m not sure if it matters whether you forgive me or not but just that you hear me out.

as for your opinion of my writing; what would anything be worth if *everyone* liked it?
but there is one thing, that I still think was wrong on your part; Dismentled didn’t do anything wrong, he can stand up for anyone he wants to and considering you don’t know him; who are you to make judgements as you did? surely that’s not something you find "humerous" enough to joke about?
as far as the age thing I’ll keep my opinions to myself.

still though...there’s my sincerity, all of that aside you do need to back off; regardless of whether I’m sorry or not you have equal right to be. 

 User   cabbalistic | 2007-04-13 |
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 Message  Right, so ron Told me to google ‘self-righteous’.

‘Holier-than-thou: excessively or hypocritically pious’
‘Having too high an opinion of one’s own merits, and being intolerant of other people’s faults.’

Sorry. Still think the word was made for people like you.

You have said:

‘Also I hope people notice since I set the record straight about the comments from Jess(Silent Death) and the Lies spoken from Chell they havent responded

Its like I always say let the truth speak for itself!!!!!’

and

‘Just Please dont lie about people as you just admitted you Have
Its really not very proper’

Not very proper? As compared to, say, telling someone to ‘cut yourself deeper next time’?

‘Remember it is a defeated person who resorts to insults to try to prove their point’

What exactly do you think YOU were doing when you said to Chell:

‘I noticed you ran right away from that Lie when you found out that I dont believe in Hell.’

‘Admit it Chell you were caught in a lie and now to save some face you are off running.’

Ever consider the possibility it ‘could’ have been a misunderstanding? All she did was ask you why you thought she was going to hell. Funny how you called her a liar and accused her of running off to save face. That’s slightly overkill for someone who claims to want to Help people get around Negativity.

‘My life is lived to try to help other people WHO WANT TO HELP THEMSELVES move forward and escape the shroud of negativity.’

‘Why is it deplorable that Negative people arent welcome on certain sites?’

So…you want to help ‘negative’ people but you don’t want them on certain sites. Sounds a tad bit hypocritical.

Congratulations. You come across as a swell guy. Keep it up.

 

 User   H_K | 2007-04-13 |
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 Message  Chell’s depression (not that it’s any or your concern) was caused by a self-serving righteous pig who decided to tell lies about Chell. It put her into a 13 month nightmare, cost tens of thousands of dollars, took away her good name, her ability to work at the kinds of jobs she wanted, and you want to know how she reacted to the overactive pig that caused so much shit? She forgave her. She even stood up for the bitch to others.

You claim to have talked to Chell many times before and assure me that she’s a liar because you’ve caught her in them before- which is funny considering I’ve known Chell for over 19 years and can’t think of a single time she’s lies to anyone about anything. Perhaps you just bring out the absolute worst in people like her.

Remember that jumping to conclusions about other people based on a few short chatroom conversations is a negative, hateful thing to do. (You two can’t have talked much, or often, seeing as we talk about almost everything.)

And the whole “not afraid to voice my opinion, bouncing back with words thing is something that “liar” taught me- before that I’d have just responded by telling you to go fuck yourself with your tiny assed dick.
 

 User   Ronswords | 2007-04-13 |
 Subject  Hi 
 Message  First Off HK

Perhaps if Chell didnt lie about people then she wouldnt have created this depression for herself

I have spoken to Chell many times before and I assure you she did not misspeak as I have caught her in lies before

And Cabbalistic im sure you know how to read

I report I could care less about myself

My life is lived to try to help other people WHO WANT TO HELP THEMSELVES move forward and escape the shroud of negativity

So how my friend can that be considered self rightious

Perhaps you can Goggle the word or look it up before you go accusaing someone of being that

HK I am intriqued by you
You seem smart and are not afraid to voice your opinion on drugs and you always bounce back with words to back your opinion
I respect that

You are not like the other negative people on here who just spew hatred to try to get on someones nerves

Remember it is a defeated person who resorts to insults to try to prove their point

God Bless
Ron 

 User   cabbalistic | 2007-04-13 |
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 Message  No no. Let ron preach about Negativity. It’s good Fun for the rest of us.

And I’m sure Chell doesn’t give a damn about his ridiculously self-righteous comments.
 

 User   H_K | 2007-04-13 |
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 Message  The one you so eloquently called a Liar and have accused of making things up for the sole purpose of trying to make you look bad. You told her to leave the site if she doesn’t like you or what you have to say, and then accused her of running off to save face after she took your self-serving advice.

You’ve stated that you are “just sick and tired of people instigating arguments because they have no self respect for themselves and are only looking for attention” which is a bit ironic, considering you posted an argument against arguing in a DEBATE FORUM.

Don’t most people going through depression reach out, sometimes in the wrong way, for attention? Of course, those kind of negative, hurting people just need to cut deeper, right?

You gave her absolutely no benefit of the doubt. You judged her a liar with no thought to the possibility of misspeaking.

And not to be a dick, but if you really want to talk about people seeking attention, the whole, “Please if you get a chance Please take a look at some of my writes and let me know what you think” copied and pasted on almost every comment comes across as overly needy and extremely superficial. Of course, that’s just my observation.

You claim to be a peace loving man who has never said or done anything against anyone in this site but Polite and complimentary things. I’m not sure I can see through the cloud of pungent smoke clearly enough, but I would swear you were not complimentary or polite when you automatically jumped to the conclusion that she has maliciously lied about you or your beliefs.

But, you don’t care, and this is cutting down my high…
 

 User   Ronswords | 2007-04-13 |
 Subject  Hi 
 Message  Who is this woman you are speaking of that is going thru a severe depression?

God Bless
Ron 

 User   H_K | 2007-04-13 |
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 Message  If I owned a poetry site, ALL voices would be welcome. For all the people who write about love, happiness, and romance, there are also people who write to work through sorrow, depression, anger, angst, betrayal, death of loved ones, etc. Different people find inspiration and feel the need to give voices to their emotions in different ways.

It’s nice that you’re using a poetry site to help people through difficult situations but you might be better served creating a counseling site. This is supposed to be a site for poets to improve their writing abilities which requires honest critiques with appropriate suggestions for improvements.

If you had our own site you would be the one to decide who is a negative person, who you want to defend, who you want to call names, and who is welcome on your site.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who are in a lot of pain in this world, and they wouldn’t feel comfortable being on a site where everyone was required to be positive all the time. And then you couldn’t help anyone through anything- everyone would already be all smiles, roses, and spouting nothing but happy crappy bullshit.

It’s great that you have overcome your depression, pain, and negativity- it is, however, too bad that you feel justified in beating up on a woman who is currently suffering through a severe depression.  

 User   Ronswords | 2007-04-12 |
 Subject  In Response 
 Message  I am helping a lot of people feel better about themselves HK

I have numerous PMs from people Thanking me for helping them out when they were in a bad situation

Why is it deplorable that Negative people arent welcome on certain sites?
And by the way I dont make the rules for this site noone said they werent welcome

Im saying that if a person is only going to be Negative and always put down people just to get attention or a response then be honest HK
Are you saying if you had a site you would welcome such people?
If this was my site and I was in charge then by all means people like that would not be Welcome at my site


There are a lot of people who are in a lot of pain in this world

To be honest a lot of that pain was created by their own hands
When People can wake up and realize that and start to change things then they will start to feel better about themselves

Of course Im not saying all the pain people feel is created by their own hands
That is simply not true
It is that Deplorable pain that people also need to stand up too and not allow that Negativity to interfere in their life

God Bless
Ron 

 User   H_K | 2007-04-12 |
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 Message   If you truly don’t care what people think of you, you wouldn’t be so ready to jump all over another poet over her understanding of what you’ve said in the past..

Who has said they hate you? If you are really helping people feel better about themselves why would they hate you?

So sorry about the mistake- you didn’t tell finnigan to kill himself- you just want him to have deeper wounds, bigger scars, more damage. I get it man. Mum’s the word that sends you over the edge- we all have our buttons.

BTW, a friend was someone you know well and regard with affection. And while you might regard me with affection (A bit too stalkerish for my taste) I’m not your friend.

It’s deplorable that ‘negative people’ aren’t welcome on a creative site. Are you on a mission to get rid of all the angsty teenagers, drug addicts, those in mourning? It makes more sense to seek out “positive people” within the confines of religion.

You’re fucked if you think you’ll be free from gossips and liars on a site that supports storytellers.

 

 User   Ronswords | 2007-04-12 |
 Subject  Hi 
 Message  H K

I aint asking noone for forgiveness

If y6ou knew me you would know I could care less what people think of me
If someone hates me Good for them
Like I said I could care less


Finnagen is the only one I asked for forgiveness
And if you looked at this whole conversation you would see I forgave him right away for what he said about my Mother
I have no hard feelings toward him what so ever

As for you saying I expect everyone to forgive me
Dpnt make me laugh
If it makes you feel better by hating me then by all means Please hate me
That makes me feel bvetter knowing that somehow I helped someone feel better about themselves

And also you have misspoken
I never told Finnagen to commit suicide
I said the next time you cut yourself cut deeper
His actions are his own responsibility not mine
Also like I said Finnagen and I have patched things up so to be honest there is really no reason to keep bringing something up that happenend almost a year ago if not longer

Oh yeah one more thing

Your last line said that this site is disolving

Onm the contrary my Friend

We have picked up a lot of new members who are some Great Writers
Now if the negative people do leave then THANK GOD
This site will then finally be what it was meant to be again
A Great site for Poets to mingle and talk poetry wothout having to deal with Lies and Gossip about other poets 

 User   H_K | 2007-04-12 |
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 Message  I don’t normally voice in in here seeing as I’m not a poet. I don’t comment on others works as I’m not a poet. But I come to E.S because I like to read poetry, and have found that the forum here is some of the best free entertainment on the internet! I’ve found it immensely enjoyable to sit back, sip my beer, roast a joint, fondle myself, and laugh at the hen pecking. But I thought it might be good to mention that Chell’s site says she left 4 days ago... Her bio is wiped clean, all her poetry gone. Kind of sucks, I really liked the nice shoes piece, and that one about elite skills addiction.

Ron, you seem to expect everyone to forgive you for telling a person to suicide, but seem almost gleeful in thinking you’ve chased a poet off this site for what? A lie, a bad memory, a misunderstanding?

Elite Skill is going to be a much better site with one less poet! Maybe you can keep working on that other guy and this site can dissolve further... 

 User   GiveMeTheGun | 2007-04-12 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  :O
Ron called someone a liar! 

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