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User	Blue Monk | 2007-08-26 |
Subject	Boredom?
Message	Maybe even God does not like being bored and so delays his Kingdom on Earth? As Shakespeare’s famous line goes, “All the world is a stage.” Why have ultimate peace and contentment, knowing the whole reason for your being when you can have all the "excitement" and mystery that this world currently has to offer? To each their own. I love the Addams family! They’ve been around a very long time, as have I.

User	H_K | 2007-08-25 |
Subject	untitled
Message	Sounds horribly boring. Mundane even- everyone thinking, feeling, acting, and believing the exact same things, wandering around with no one left to convert. It sounds like being stuck in the "Harmony Hut" from Addam’s Family. I think I’ll pass... thanks anyways.

User	Blue Monk | 2007-08-25 |
Subject	untitled
Message	Actually, those godless heathens killed everyone regardless of whether they were Christian, Moslem, Jewish, Hindu, Pagan, godless heathens... well you get the picture - anyone and everyone including their own. All confusion is for the benefit of confusion. Yes, when the Master returns there will be no need for debate, everyone will KNOW the truth (whatever that is) and the thing called "faith" will become undefined, replaced by thing called "complete realization". Everyone will suddenly find their own "moral compass", whether on this side or the other.

User	H_K | 2007-08-24 |
Subject	untitled
Message	Yeah, us godless heathens will always be used for Christian population control... Just imagine, if those that believed in the God of Abraham stopped fighting each other and started working together, there would be a one world government that ruled the world, and those of us with no moral compasses wouldn’t be able to do anything wrong. It would be paradise (as soon as you all got done separating the chaff form the wheat... Of course, the debate forums would disappear- no one would have any dissenting opinions anymore.

User	Blue Monk | 2007-08-24 |
Subject	untitled
Message	3.) ... the battle over who really knows the God of Abraham. Strange as it may seem, all such worshippers are awaiting for the same person to answer that question. One would almost suspect that current problems are by design. We still remain in the grip of what happened to us at the tower of Babel, which was decidedly by design. Perhaps not so strange is the fact that the world’s attention is currently focused on what is happening in the land of Babylon, where all our problems really began. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon

User	Blue Monk | 2007-08-24 |
Subject	untitled
Message	It would be pointless to compare the numbers of murders having been committed over the course of history between people who "know God" versus those who did not such as Hitler, Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, etc, etc. etc. The godless shall always remain number one in that respect.

User	H_K | 2007-08-24 |
Subject	untitled
Message	Ask any Zionist- the UN didn’t give them Israel- God did! Read the Bible- it says so- and no one can override God’s will- that’s why the Israeli nation has never been detroyed. (lol) Of course, the Jewish God is same God who decided Palestine would be the birth place of the Muslim and the Christian religions- shouldn’t that be a hint that we are all supposed to get along? But, Blue is right- if the UN (including the US) can not stop the kind, compassionate, God-fearing Jews from starving, imprisoning, displacing, and slaughtering the Palestinians maybe it IS time to wipe out the whole Middle East. We could fly in and level the whole region with half our nuclear arsenal (about 4,000 bombs) and we would : 1.) solve our dependency on oil, light, fresh air 2.) eliminate the birthplace of the three most violent religions to hit the planet, and 3.) end the battle over who really knows the God of Abraham. I think it sounds like a great idea! Now, if we could just grow the balls to actually carry out this kind of massive self-elimination- there just MIGHT be peace on earth..

User	Blue Monk | 2007-08-24 |
Subject	untitled
Message	UN mandate? The UN is a total JOKE. The only thing "united" about it is the way the petty and not so petty "dictators" manipulate it to perpetuate their own power. We see how effective they have been in stopping the on-going genocide and/or starvation across the planet. Any number of "faith-based" organizations from various countries have done more than the UN to actually help people. But then the aforementioned "dictators" have no faith, only greed for money and power. And yes, you can include the U.S. government in that bunch if that’s how you feel.

User	Blue Monk | 2007-08-24 |
Subject	untitled
Message	"The age old argument of Israel: a country that was seized from its rightful occupants and delivered as a whole new nation to people who felt they’d earned their promised land." Learah | 2007-08-23 | But the same could be said of the United States, in fact certainly all of the Western Hemisphere, and if you look at history close enough and go back far enough the same could be said about everywhere else on this planet.

User	joeyalphabet | 2007-08-24 |
Subject	untitled
Message	Israel exceeded its UN mandate when it started building settlements in the West Bank. They need to return the territory they conquered in 67 and come to terms with their Arab neighbors and the Palestinians. Bush ignored this issue for the better part of the last 6 years and now it’s coming back to bite him in the ass.

User	Learah | 2007-08-23 |
Subject	untitled
Message	The age old argument of Israel: a country that was seized from its rightful occupants and delivered as a whole new nation to people who felt they’d earned their promised land. Sorry, I don’t buy it. It’s okay for one group to pick and choose which part of holy teachings they’ll obey, and utterly wrong for another?

User	H_K | 2007-08-23 |
Subject	untitled
Message	Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. - Isaac Asimov Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary. -Mahatma Gandhi Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars... Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -Martin Luther King Jr. What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? -Mahatma Gandhi When defeat is inevitable, it is wisest to yield. -Quintilian Nonviolence is the answer to the crucial political and moral questions of our time; the need for mankind to overcome oppression and violence without resorting to oppression and violence. Mankind must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love. -Martin Luther King Jr. He who strikes the first blow admits he’s lost the argument. -Chinese Proverb I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones – Albert Einstein

User	Blue Monk | 2007-08-23 |
Subject	untitled
Message	The idea for the Israelis is to AVOID a nuclear confrontation in which no one wins, everyone loses. The mad mullahs (of whichever country) have a stated goal of wiping Israel off the map, and have also stated that they can absorb whatever losses it takes to accomplish that goal. I do not recall where Israel bombed downtown Bagdad where the people were because they were never a target. Only the actual threat of the nuclear facility was targeted - and destroyed. Now, if you have a perceived "nut case" who for some reason hates you and has been threatening your life for years and has actively supported others like himself who tend to regularly launch missiles at you - while the "nut" is already well practiced in the killing of his own people while continuing to make that ability a priority, when you see him reach for a gun - what then are your immediate options? The fact that Israel has shown so much patience with their neighbors is a wonder in itself. Don’t count on it to hold much longer. That it would be bad for business for a little while may soon be overlooked in favor of actually living. I advocate nothing, I merely observe the facts.

User	Blue Monk | 2007-08-23 |
Subject	untitled
Message	"I thought that was why Hiroshima and Nagasaki were so devastating.. " It was devastating as any war is, but the only other option, an invasion of the Japanese mainland, was far worse in terms of the numbers of people who would die on both sides. The experience with Okinawa only proved that which our leaders already knew. Please study history. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/okinawa-battle.htm

User	H_K | 2007-08-23 |
Subject	untitled
Message	"NO ONE on this planet wants a radical and murderous "government" to have nukes if it is felt that they might have any inclination to actually use them and any means to deliver them." Couldn’t using nuclear weapons on humans be the very definition of radical and murderous?? I thought that was why Hiroshima and Nagasaki were so devastating.. Are you seriously advocating that Israel murder the poor democracy-hungry people living in poverty under a group radical Mullah’s? I’m sure killing massive numbers of poverty-stricken people will win many hearts and minds to the American Way of Life... I can’t see anyone carrying a grudge, or getting nervous, or deciding to take revenge for an act like that. (I mean, ever since Israel proved it’s might by taking out over a thousand Lebanese in in payment for two Israeli soldiers the two sides have gotten along splendidly, right? And it’s NOT goign to be the same, BM- It’s not going to be history repeating itself when everyone gets trigger happy with their nuclear bombs instead of ak-47’s and hand grenades...

User	Blue Monk | 2007-08-23 |
Subject	untitled
Message	It would be merely history repeating itself. When the Israelis took out Saddam’s nuclear facility NO ONE reacted in any overt way. Everyone just silently THANKED THEM even while vocally condemning the action. NO ONE on this planet wants a radical and murderous "government" to have nukes if it is felt that they might have any inclination to actually use them and any means to deliver them. We are not talking about an invasion/takeover here, just a little highly selective bombing, if possible on an off day just like last time. If the Mullahs insist upon having a ring of women and children standing around to deter such, let that be on their heads, but you can bet the mission plans are already carved in stone tablets somewhere.

User	H_K | 2007-08-22 |
Subject	untitled
Message	So, you think that Russia and China will sit quietly off on the sidelines if we are embroiled in Iraq and our best friends- the Israeli’s- are involved in Iran? You don’t find it a bad sign that Russia is flying planes with nuclear weapons on board, ready to be fired at the order of their commander in chief? The Israeli’s want to kill the Arabs because they the Arabs want to kill the Israeli’s. The Arabs want to kill the Israeli’s because the Israeli’s want to kill the Arabs. And a completely ruined world will be inherited by our war-torn, war-grown, war-honed children, who will repeat their parents deplorable behavior over and over and over again. But hey, there can be only one- right?

User	Blue Monk | 2007-08-22 |
Subject	untitled
Message	Not to worry, it will not be much longer before the Israelis get tired of waiting and decide to take out the nuclear ambitions of Iran just as they previously did for Iraq. Considering the on-going rhetoric of the mad mullahs, I don’t see them having any other option. It is doubtful that "reconstruction" has any part in their plan. BTW - Israel has long been suspected of already having nukes as well as cruise missiles, but there I go with the rumors again.

User	H_K | 2007-08-22 |
Subject	untitled
Message	It’s worse than that- it’s the Hatfield’s and the McCoys -global style...

User	joeyalphabet | 2007-08-22 |
Subject	untitled
Message	You’re forgetting about the aftermath, Monk, the same as the administation forgot about it in Iraq. Sure we can ’take out’ Iran. What then? Who replaces Ahmadinajad (sic) and the ayatollahs? Or d owe get another unstable, infighting Middle East country that further destabilizes the region? Your argument about Iran is the same one I heard from people who supported the Irq invasion. It’s not foreign policy - it’s satisfying an urge for revenge.