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 User  Ronswords 
 Topic  Prayer In School 
 Message  I am very curious as to all of your responses
Should Prayer be allowed in school?
I myself see nothing wrong with Thanking God for everything he has done for us
I also stress that by Prayer I mean any kind of Prayer from any kind of religion
A Child has a hard enough time in todays world growing up so I see nothing wrong with asking God for his continued help in their young lives as they mature
I also believe NOONE should be forced to pray
If a child chooses to not particapate then they should definately be allowed to just sit down and maybe meditate to prepare themselves for a new day
What are your opinions???
God Bless
Ron Ramonas 

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 User   Blue Monk | 2008-11-02 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  The Fellowship of Christian Athletes does get to visit the school, but that’s about the only "religious" organization allowed. 

 User   mae | 2008-11-02 |
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 Message  Sports are considered "extra"-curricular, Blue - but then, you know that. The teams aren’t graded on their performance - or at least, not formally on their school transcripts. They are, for sure, "graded" by their peers.

mae 

 User   Blue Monk | 2008-10-31 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Is the football team "in class" when they do a group prayer before a game? 

 User   mae | 2008-10-31 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Well, Chell, I really haven’t heard of many student-led prayer groups in session during class. I think that’s a problem only in your mind. I doubt that many others reading these posts thought that that is what I meant.

mae 

 User   Chell | 2008-10-30 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  If students aren’t "on the clock’ during recess then they should be able to leave school grounds during recess.

I’ll let my oldest know that you say he is able to do whatever he wants during recess because he’s off the clock... 

 User   Ronswords | 2008-10-29 |
 Subject  Hi 
 Message  Chell
So you believe when kids are in school they are on the clock huh?
How about recess what if the kids got together during recess for a prayer group on their own
Then nobody could stop them from having a prayer group
And the same thing goes for if a person is working during their break they can pray all they want to and noone can stop them
That is their time
in fact if a business was trying to fire someone for praying during their break time
then that person would have one hell of a class action lawsuit that would then involve everyone who was ILLEGALLY discriminated against
God Bless
Ron 

 User   Chell | 2008-10-29 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  I think school should be a training ground for the real world.

And in the real world if I went to my boss and told him that not letting me pray while at work was infringing on my religious freedoms I’d be laughed at right before I was replaced by someone who could focus on the task at hand...

I think, and I could be wrong, that employers would be put off by an employee-led prayer group practicing their religious freedoms while on the clock.

When kids are in school they are on the clock. 

 User   Blue Monk | 2008-10-26 |
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 Message  You can’t identify your beliefs as facts - Porcelaine

Actually, there’s quite a bit being taught in schools that has little to do with "facts". What needs teaching is what is going to be useful as the student encounters the world at large. This is what to a large extent is currently missing.

That said, a great many so-called "religions" have been hijacked by various demons from hell and their version of "truth" certainly has no place in a public school setting. 

 User   mae | 2008-10-25 |
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 Message  Schools are also there to teach critical thinking and conclusion-making. This sometimes involves religion. "Facts" are not always required in school. The question is not about religion in schools, but prayer. And the answer is simple: unless a school can provide prayer or freedom from prayer for every student in his/her own religion or lack of it, then mandatory, administration-led prayer in schools is stepping on someone’s religious freedom and should not be part of school.

Private prayer or student-led prayer groups are different. To outlaw that or those (how could you effectively outlaw personal private prayer, anyway?) would be infringing on EVERYONE’S religious freedom.

mae

 

 User   Porcelaine | 2008-10-22 |
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 Message  Schools are for knowledge, churches are for prayers. You can’t identify your beliefs as facts and therefore your beliefs have no place in school. Go to church and pray, it’s why it’s there. 

 User   MINTPATTY | 2008-09-24 |
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 Message  didn’t mean to post that twice haha 

 User   MINTPATTY | 2008-09-24 |
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 Message  i agree with you ron. If a child or teacher wants to pray in school then let the mutha fukas mutha fukin pray
if they don’t want to don’t try to force them.
faith is about choice and free will.
a to da mutha fukin men 

 User   MINTPATTY | 2008-09-24 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  i agree with you ron. If a child or teacher wants to pray in school then let the mutha fukas mutha fukin pray
if they don’t want to don’t try to force them.
faith is about choice and free will.
a to da mutha fukin men 

 User   Blue Monk | 2008-09-23 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  Teach the kids how to make money! 

 User   joeyalphabet | 2008-09-21 |
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 Message  Can we F****** just teach kids to read, write, and do math? I’d be happy with THAT. 

 User   Outlaw | 2008-09-20 |
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 Message  A little selfish there, are we not Blue? 

 User   Blue Monk | 2008-09-20 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  spirituality held as sacred - Chell

... as long as it’s MINE! 

 User   BusterLILblock | 2008-09-10 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  agreeing with cabb, they takr it 2 the exrtemes and say we do really weird things 

 User   Chell | 2008-09-10 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  I know- I was being a bit dramatic. Wicca don’t actually lay salt circles every time they pray either. And holy rollers don’t roll all the time either.

The point I want to make is that I would like to see spirituality held as sacred and personal and education kept as public and mundane. 

 User   cabbalistic | 2008-09-10 |
 Subject  untitled 
 Message  "..their beliefs right alongside the Muslim children who lay out their prayer rugs facing Mecca and kiss the ground during school."

We don’t actually kiss the ground during prayer. :P
 

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