| User | dismentled | | Topic | FUCK Profanity! | | Message | Alright, apparently since it’s unreasonable of me to expect a logical, well eduacated debate at college, I’m bringing it here.
As usual I was getting bitched at for being "profane". And yes, as usual no one can actaully give me any LEGITIMATE reason as too why such words are considered "innapropriate". I got the usual bs answers, the bible, because society as a whole, because we’ve been told so, blah blah blah. Not everyone believes in the bible. Society as a whole, found wicca to be evil in the 1600’s and killed dozens just in America, and Thousands in Europe, so obviousily that’s bullshyt. And doing something just because you’re told makes you a mindless, incompitent, idiot. The innablity to think for oneself, and give thyne ownself reasons, proves a great lack of intellectaul ability!
And now for the Debate(profanity allowed!). Can Anyone give a substntial reson for why such words, as shyt are innapropriate, but craps fine, and fuck is bad, but screw is ok? Along with other obvious things. I see nothing wrong with fuck, shyt, pussy, cock, as long as it’s not racist or sexists, I see nothing wrong with it. So profanity; where’d it come from, and what’s REALLY wrong with it, if ANYTHING?!? |
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| User | Blue Monk | 2007-12-20 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | And here I figured things were at least staying in context. |
| User | machine dream | 2007-12-20 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | " I see nothing in that link that remotely refers to the use of profanity. "
Well doh, I was writing about impulse control, not about profanity. Either read more carefully, compose your questions more clearly, or both :)
And yes, topics are there so you can go off topic :P |
| User | Blue Monk | 2007-12-20 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | If a teeter totter doesn’t rock, it’s just a board. - Blue Monk |
| User | Chell | 2007-12-20 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Yes, but could the same be said about Samuel Langhorne Clemens? And if not, isn’t it interesting that they both call for a refusal to adjust behaviors into the slipstreams of convention. (I am, of course, operating on the belief that becoming a rebel, a Devil, or Great is- at least- as much in opposition with conformity as profaning.)
“All censorships exist to prevent any one from challenging current conceptions and existing institutions. All progress is initiated by challenging current conceptions, and executed by supplanting existing institutions. Consequently the first condition of progress is the removal of censorships.” -George Bernard Shaw
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| User | alteredlife | 2007-12-20 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Crowley was a nutjob... personal opinion after reading up on him... *wooshes out* |
| User | Chell | 2007-12-19 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | “Smart, well adapted people naturally adjust their behavior into the slipstream of such convention..” –Blue Monk
“The essence of independence has been to think and act according to standards from within, not without. Inevitably anyone with an independent mind must become "one who resists or opposes authority or established conventions": a rebel. If enough people come to agree with, and follow, the Rebel, we now have a Devil. Until, of course, still more people agree. And then, finally, we have --- Greatness.” -Aleister Crowley (1875 - 1947)
“In certain trying circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity furnishes a relief denied even to prayer.” -Mark Twain
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| User | Blue Monk | 2007-12-19 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Chell,
The first article cited amounts to a statement of opinion from a community college psyc. prof. as opposed to any documented research. My grandmother said as much.
The second article is indeed fun and obviously a matter of great concern to the author (playing to his audience), but still doesn’t tag a low I.Q. on people inclined towards profanity.
It is apparently as I mentioned earlier, that which amounts to offensive language depends upon the social convention in effect for any given time and place. Smart, well adapted people naturally adjust their behavior into the slipstream of such convention whether it be it all-Holy on tiptoes in church (or on your knees) or slathering brew while waiting in a train line at a biker bar (or on your knees).
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| User | Chell | 2007-12-19 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Another fun article:
Who Will Save The Children?!
Aww, heck. The FCC says curse words now cost $500,000! And your child might just hear one, and explode!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2004/06/25/notes062504.DTL&hw=morford&sc=678&sn=265 |
| User | Chell | 2007-12-19 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | http://media.www.theranger.org/media/storage/paper1010/news/2004/11/12/Premiere/Profanity.Indicates.Users.Swear.Off.Intelligence-2000982.shtml |
| User | Blue Monk | 2007-12-19 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | I see nothing in that link that remotely refers to the use of profanity.
I searched for over 5 min. and could not find an article linking the use of profanity to those measuring lower than normal IQ’s. At this point, I’d suspect the two issues are unrelated. |
| User | machine dream | 2007-12-19 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence#Psychometric_approach
That section of the Wikipedia article on intelligence pretty much sums up the basics.
Keep in mind that the ’general intelligence’ factor is a widely accepted concept among researchers in the intelligence field. |
| User | Blue Monk | 2007-12-18 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message |
"The internet is like my closet however, there’s a lot of stuff in it, but don’t ask me to find it on demand"
I thought you might have had a ready reference on hand. Even I can look something up. Regardless, I feel such amounts to more of an opinion than a law. |
| User | Blue Monk | 2007-12-18 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | But nothing really beats being able to not give a damn about the "future consequences"of what other people may think about you. Such independence translates to personal power, and whether real or simply perceived, it still feels good to know that -
"I am always right" and "I am nevertheless smart enough to stay out of jail". |
| User | machine dream | 2007-12-18 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | There’s ample evidence that intelligence is linked to impulse control, partially because of the capability to estimate future consequences of ones actions. Not to mention that intelligence influences pretty much every psychometric and socio-economic variable.
The internet is like my closet however, there’s a lot of stuff in it, but don’t ask me to find it on demand. |
| User | Blue Monk | 2007-12-18 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | "People who can’t control their emotions however (impulse control) tend to be less intelligent"
Is this a personal opinion or is there some reference to back it up. If so, it could prove useful in the future. |
| User | machine dream | 2007-12-18 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | There’s nothing primitive about emotions from an evolutionary perspective. People who can’t control their emotions however (impulse control) tend to be less intelligent, which isn’t considered a desirable trait. |
| User | Chell | 2007-12-18 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | Hey Cab,
I was thinking and I don’t believe I’ve ever cursed when I wasn’t emotionally charged...
Of course, emotions are primitive so make of it what you will.
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| User | Blue Monk | 2007-12-17 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | sounds too much like work. |
| User | cabbalistic | 2007-12-16 | | | Subject | untitled | | Message | But what about swearing when you’re NOT emotionally charged up? Bet that requires more than the primitive parts of our brain!;) |
| User | Ronswords | 2007-12-15 | | | Subject | Hi | | Message | Excellent Post Cabbalistic
I Thank You for that link
God Bless
Ron |
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