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User	NoMartyr | 2008-09-05 |
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Message	Ha, talernt. Hee.

User	Sir Jimeth | 2008-09-04 |
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Message	"I thought Dexter was the show with the opera singing who’s being chased by scouts from "america’s got talernt."" Ha. If I kill a person who has killed a person that makes me a person who has killed a person and thus eligible for the same vengeance I am seeking. I appreciate so many of you want blood, but personally I’d rather a murderer be put to a life of work and made use of. That’s just me though, I’m not as moral as most of you and fail to feel that I have the right to decide whether someone should be allowed to live or die, even if they were moral enough to think they deserved to. I’ve never watched the show, but from what I gather, Dexter is a serial killer who managed to have enough of a leash placed on him that he acts as the executioner for murderers and such. This may appeal to the masturbatory daydreams everyday people have, but only if you allow yourself enough detachment to think you have a right to kill people because they killed people. You know, become what you hate.

User	joeyalphabet | 2008-09-04 |
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Message	I thought Dexter was the show with the opera singing who’s being chased by scouts from "america’s got talernt."

User	NoMartyr | 2008-09-03 |
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Message	"Executing all blacks in the US, 12% of the population, would in fact solve 50% of the crime problem." C’mon man. The fact that there are so many blacks in the prison system has nothing to do with Blacks being 6 times more criminal than white people, that shit is just bullshit. I blame the racist judicial system and racist cops, because there is no way in hell that just because someone is born black they are 6 times as likely to commit a crime as me. Do you still think the Bell Curve is an educational standard?

User	Toxic_Rayne | 2008-07-15 |
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Message	Chell- I too, love Dexter...in a creepy sort of way (kinda wish I could marry him 0.o) I see what you’re getting at, but I also agree with Joy with that the US kills sensibly; that’s to say that we don’t just line people up and shoot them because of business fraud or sexual orientation. I’m not sure by what you mean that you would be able to swallow these public stoning a little better if they were being carried out by someone withouot sin...no one is without sin...but bringing god into human affairs often complicates debate, so I say we don’t go there, but if a sinless person were to kill...well...I wouldn’t feel better about that because then we’ve "tarnished" someone’s soul...it’s better to tarnish what’s already been tarnished...I’m pretty sure that sounds horrible, but that’s where I stand. Then again, it’s impossible, according to the church, to be born into this world and living sinlessly. Machine dream- as sad as it is, the racial crimme statistics ring true...most blacks are in gangs; simple as that, which, obviously, has a lot to do with their higher crime statistic. I’m by no means, racist (not that I’m saying you are), and can’t say blacks are the main source of the crime. Ronswords- I agree with you; I think the death penalty should be extended to more than just murders, but rapists as well. Dismentled-you are proving the point I’m about to make, so thank you, as always. Okay, the reason why I support the ddeath penalty (and Dexter) is that killers and rapists won’t change. I have had family members who are and were (they’ve been killed) such things as well as others, and one off the lesser criminals told me flat out: "a lot of people who are thrown into jail behave well to get out. A lot say they’ve turned to God and repented for their sins. Some join gangs; neo-nazis and stuff like that. It’s either that, or die. Everyone knows that somehow they’ll get out." It’s as simple as that; people like killers and rapists don’t, won’t, and can’t change; many don’t even feel sorry for the things they’ve done. If a killer or rapist is released from jail or found guiltless (even though he/she isn’t), the chances that they’ll do it again are very high. 90% of all violent crimes are perpetrated by repeat offenders. Roughly 10% of prison inmates are doing time for violent crimes. *tox*

User	dismentled | 2008-07-15 |
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Message	Named in memory of Jessica Lunsford, who was abducted and sexually assaulted before being brutally murdered, "Jessica’s Law" refers to the Jessica Lunsford Act passed in Florida which mandates a minimum sentence of 25 years and a maximum of life in prison for first-time child sex offenders. Personally, I think these parasites on the crust of societys ass, deserve to die! for instance "“There have been despicable cases all across America in which girls and boys have been raped, abused, and even murdered - often by serial sex offenders who had been released by authorities after serving short prison sentences. Here are just a few of the more egregious examples: ▪ In Rhode Island, 18-year-old Josh Maciorski was convicted of having sex with a 13-year-old girl, but sentenced to probation. Two years later he molested a 14-year-old girl and served just one year. Then, when he got out, Maciorski raped a 16-year-old girl. His sentence after this third strike - an unbelievable three years in prison. ▪ In Missouri, 19-year old Darrell Jackson pleaded guilty to repeatedly sexually abusing a little girl, beginning when she was just eight. But when Jackson came up for sentencing, a soft judge gave him four months in prison and five years probation. ▪ In Minnesota, Joseph Duncan stood in front of a judge, accused of molesting a young boy. Despite the fact that Duncan had previously served 16 years for raping another young boy at gunpoint, the judge released" if, we’re not going to Kill these bastards, we should at least support this law. 40 states currently have some semblance of this law. Vermont, not being one, and having the most lax laws.

User	Ronswords | 2008-07-13 |
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Message	I am 100 percent in agreement with the death penalty If a person takes a life then they too should lose their life Some of you who know me may be surprised with my stance on this but I have never been someone who is afraid to voice their beliefs I would also like to state The death penalty should be more widely used then just for murderers I can think of plenty of other crimes against humanity where the death penalty would be rightfully used God Bless Ron

User	machine dream | 2008-07-12 |
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Message	Careful with statistics Chell, from what I’ve gathered the death penalty is more easily supported in multi-racial states. Add to that the fact that blacks are roughly 6 times more criminal than whites. Executing all blacks in the US, 12% of the population, would in fact solve 50% of the crime problem. This however would be unfeasible for various reasons. Another problem is that very few criminals are actually executed, so with only a few executions a year the death penalty won’t show an actual impact. Work camps pose an interesting alternative to the death penalty, but I don’t think a prisoner can be forced to work given modern laws. A much harsher approach to the prison system would be required to make this work. There is also the question if its desirable to place murderers in the same prison as a car thief, most liberals wouldn’t let their children within a 100 yards of a convicted murderer, but dare the human scum be killed, oh no!

User	Chell | 2008-07-10 |
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Message	So what category are we? Are we sending the message that it’s ok to murder those who murder in order to show those who are considering committing murder the dangers of murdering... ? And yet, when the police chiefs of the U.S. were polled on their views about ways to lower the crime rate, only 1% named the death penalty as their top priority in reducing violent crime. The murder rate in non-death penalty states has remained consistently lower than the rate in states with the death penalty, and the gap has grown since 1990. A whopping 46% gap in 2005! http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?scid=12&did=168 The mentality is simple for criminals in states with the death penalty- leave no witnesses- ever. I think I would be more supportive if executions showed to have a positive impact on the murder rate- but everything says the opposite and I’m not about supporting antiquated ideas that have been proven ineffective in making for a safer society- especially at such a high cost. And I think I could swallow the whole thing a bit better if these public “stonings” were being carried out by those without sin. Now to be clear- I LOVE Dexter- but in that creepy Karmatic, Punisher, Boondocks sort of way...

User	joeyalphabet | 2008-07-09 |
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Message	The difference is that China executes people for things like business fraud, Iran executes homosexuals, and a lot of the others political dissidents. Somalians just kill each other. The US executes murderers. Please don’t put us in the same category as those other countries.

User	Chell | 2008-07-09 |
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Message	Hey guys- ever play “One of these things is NOT like the other?” Executions were carried out in Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Belarus, Botswana, China, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Japan, Kuwait, Libya, North Korea, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, USA, Vietnam, and Yemen in 2007. Not really the roll call I’d like to see my country name on… The U.S. ranked number five for the number of executions in 2007. The first in line being our great Import(ant) Mother, Communist China, with 470, followed by our dear friends in Iran with only 317 executions. Next comes the compassionate country of origin for the majority of the 9/11 terrorist operatives- Saudi Arabia- with 143 lives snuffed out. The great democracy- and stable nuclear country- of Pakistan beats us for fourth place with a mere 135 government sanctioned murders. This brings us to our great claim of 42 accounts of perfect justice. I guess we’d rather spend roughly $250,000 to legally extinguish the life of an already broken person instead of making them work like dogs to pay retribution to the people and survivors of the people they have broken.

User	dismentled | 2008-07-07 |
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Message	perhaps, but remember we’re supposed to be better than our criminals; even if it costs close to 1/4 mil per inmate on death row, or in for life

User	Toxic_Rayne | 2008-07-07 |
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Message	I agree dismentled. Murder is really only justified if it saves innocent lives; killing the killers wouldn’t be wrong in this case because we’d be preventing more deaths in the process. Oh, well, maybe it’s a twisted set of principles but that’s just how I’ve been brought up. Life in jail is too...luxuriuos for murderers and rapists. Fair? Maybe by the "law’s" standpoint, but the way our law system works...doesn’t work. The death penalty is almost like a slap on the hand as well, humanely killing real monsters via lethal injection. I think killers should get exactly what they gave. *tox*

User	Blue Monk | 2008-07-06 |
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Message	Speaking of lines... I’d agree with all but the last two of those.

User	dismentled | 2008-07-06 |
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Message	I don’t think anyone has said that capital punishment was a deterant for crime. It obviousily isn’t, but than again take a look at our jails, and obviousily NONE of our laws seem to be that effective. We are one of the few countries that still even have the death penalty, and we by far have the most amount of criminals in jail. and crimes per person, per population. NO matter how you look at it, crime wise the US is the worst. And while the worst punishment for the worst crime, sounds simple enough; who determines what the worst crime is, or the worst punishment? Many consider murder the worst crime, and the death penalty the worst punishment. but if i were a criminal, i’d prefer death row, over life. and i also consider rape, to be a more detestable crime, than murder. but in trying to be "civil" we waste MILLIONS of the tax payers money, and let go some of the worst criminals. Cause of how much money goes to the captives in"the war on drugs". 70% fucking percent, of the prison population, and about 1/5 are illegal immigrents. So were in essence not only wasting our money, on people who commited lesser crimes, while letting the more severe criminals go, but on those who are here illegally. Anyone else see a problem with that? SInce when was it the tax payers job, to see that illegal immigrants got our money, and the benefits of OUR constitution. we pay for there lawyers, and than their detention. I say dexter has the right idea, he’s getting rid of the trash, and saving us money doing it!

User	joeyalphabet | 2008-07-06 |
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Message	capital punishment has never deterred crime. why we debate the ’most humane’ method for executing criminals is beyond me. lethal injection, even 30 minutes of discomfort like that guy in fla is a lot better than their victims had. i do believe that the death panalty should be reserved for only the most heinous crimes. i think certain states like tx are far too free with it.

User	Toxic_Rayne | 2008-07-05 |
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Message	I agree with Blue Monk. They do put down criminals like we put down beloved pets because it’s the "humane" thing to do. What’s humane about killing someone or raping someone in the first place? *tox*

User	Blue Monk | 2008-07-02 |
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Message	Once upon a time, the implementation of the death penalty held purpose in that public participation served to show everyone, especially the young, that there was a universal public condemnation of whatever act the particular criminal did to deserve such a fate. This is no longer true. In many cases, "offical" death is now brought about by a machine, leaving it truly a detached, cold blooded act, even made as painless as possible. This is much as you might put to sleep a beloved pet - or even your grandmother if the law allowed. And yet they say this service "justice"?

User	machine dream | 2008-07-02 |
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Message	Blue Monk, I don’t think many people want to punish criminals, they simply see crime as a problem that requires an efficient solution. Even the families of the victims of crimes don’t as much want punishment, but closure so they can move on, or perhaps the simple satisfaction of watching the fucker die.

User	silent_death12 | 2008-07-01 |
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Message	o.O