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User	mae | 2005-01-06 |
Subject	It is nice to be
Message	agreed with it, isn’t it, fizzle? Too bad about the "cookie cutter commenter" (sounds like a serial killer, doesn’t it?), but what she was doing was really so wrong. mae

User	Sandburg | 2005-01-05 |
Subject	untitled
Message	Mae, the writer you are talking about with the cookie cutter comments got tossed off the site by the webmaster.

User	Mister Fizzle | 2005-01-05 |
Subject	untitled
Message	heh heh sorry mai, thanks for aggreeing with me Goddamn it’s nice to be right.

User	mae | 2005-01-04 |
Subject	fizzle, don't get in
Message	a dither. You’re going to pop your cork! I understand what you’re saying. Awhile back I posted a poem and received a comment that was very lengthy. The writer went on and on about a business she and her husband had and what difficulties they encountered and NEVER ONCE mentioned my poem - not even once. Then just the other day, I came across a commenter who was posting exactly the same comment on every site she visited. She’d posted the same comment on at least 10 poems - everything on the new posts page. She’d copy their entire poem, then post her repetitive little paragraph after that. I’m sure it boosted her stats, but it meant absolutely nothing as far as the poems themselves were concerned. Discouraging. mae

User	Mister Fizzle | 2005-01-04 |
Subject	untitled
Message	I think that the bottom line is that people are selfish for the most part. If people spent half as much time on their commenting as they did on their writing they would do just fine in the comment department. My_Hiroshima, you say: "Most things just don’t do enough for you to really have anything to say." My opinion on that is do not do the author a disservice by commenting on it then. Find something that actually does move you and comment on that. On another note I think this topic of mine has been taken out of context. IT is directed at the people who do not even get through a poem before they write 3 lines of useless personal experience that usually does not even relate to what you spent a while writing. It is directed at those who like to cut and paste the same general comment into a bunch of different writes. And finally it is directed at those who do not care about anything or anybody but themselves, they are so wrapped up in their own CRAP, they have trouble seeing or thinking about something they did not write. I wrote this topic because I was frustrated with the attitude in general of alot of writers on this site. They have a real "half azz" way of contributing back to the "community". Thats my word, I don’t care how many ways you can think of to say "it’s okay to write 3 lines of crap for comment on this poem" In the end it’s still copping out. I hate Goddamn copouts. peace to the unselfish and to the selfish self indulged, hell you probably didn’t even make it to here in my post. so fuc.k off and go get pissed. fizzle

User	Sandburg | 2004-12-23 |
Subject	untitled
Message	There is a selection list for the type of comments a writer is looking for ranging from detailed critique all the way down to nonsensical remarks. If writers like Mr. Fizzle ask for detailed critique, it would be rude to comment along the lines of "hey dude, you rock". If someone like Shard wants first impressions and that’s what he asks for, fire away. If you want some idea of how to comment to a particular writer, look at his recent comments. If you can’t comment like that, perhaps you should just send him a Pm and say he (or she) rocks. It seems to boil down to reading what the author has requested. It seems odd that reading should be a problem on a writing site.

User	Tinasha | 2004-12-18 |
Subject	untitled
Message	personally i feel that is what you expect from your viewers and others may feel the same way, but what is the real reason we put a poem out there? think about it, we want to know what people think, we want to know if it was satisfactory to them or unsatisfactory. to those who it was satisfactory, they usually tell why it meant something to them, this is great because you just exposed a piece of yourself and they in return exposed a piece of themselves. that’s poetry...feelings and expressing them clearly so others can relate, or interpret, or just flat out not like but realize why you feel that way. God did not give everyone the tool of flawless knowledge to critique every poem they come across, but he did give a person their personal feelings and their opinion, so say what you feel!

User	Stalking Sylvia | 2004-11-09 |
Subject	=P
Message	good write Mr. Fizzle! I can totally relate! U R 2 Kool! Thank goodness the forum doesnt have the three sentence rule but just in case it does, Blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahbalah. Okay, so anyway, U R a really good writer but I am too tired right now so I’ll read this again tomorrow and I promise I will tell you what I think.

User	particularshard | 2004-11-01 |
Subject	untitled
Message	Wait wait. If you’re gonna ask for comments the only specifcation you really ought to make in your demands is that they are cogent. A comment is not about your poem - its about what it evokes. If you only want english teachers and philosophers you should take a writing course. Personally I’m interested in knowing what my poem might have evoked in somebody, cuz I already know what its about. shard

User	Broken heart dies | 2004-10-24 |
Subject	untitled
Message	I agree. I thin when you comment on somebdy’s work, you should talk about the peice and not your life stroy. Although sometimes I’ve been tepted to tell all too. Its not cool when you go read your stuff and all someone has to say for it is what happened to them. Its way more better to just tell them what you thought abotu the peice in general. Rude not to. Broken

User	Learah | 2004-10-09 |
Subject	untitled
Message	Well, good to see a post about that, Fizzle... If you read something, it will have an effect on you. If it’s really well written it might have a profound influence on the reader forever. If it’s not done well there might be areas where your audience is confused or bored with what you’ve written and do not really understand what you’re talking about. Possibly, the words themselves will raise a reaction from the idea they’ve given, and the reader can comment on that if they want to. Anything a poem does, is important. I notice that you always mention praise before criticism... does it annoy you when people don’t just say "this was great!"? Because I remember this poem, one time, that made me feel a link into my own life that I remarked on. About how you notice one thing, you start seeing other things that relate all over the place, in heightened awareness. And if one of my pieces could relate to someone’s life, I’d like to know that. It’d mean a lot more to acheive such a touch to the reader than get a slap on the beck telling me "well done." So maybe it’s just me, I dunno, but I think I’ll continue to comment on every poem I want to with my own brand of tact and diplomacy.

User	Sandburg | 2004-10-05 |
Subject	One other thing
Message	Hope you don’t mind me putting this here, but it seemed like a good place. When you do comment under a posted poem, try to keep the comment about the poem, and don’t direct a comment at other comments. Each member has their own page, if you want to comment to another member about what they wrote, I think it’s best to go to that members page for that.

User	angela~ | 2004-10-02 |
Subject	untitled
Message	I agree completely with you Mister Fizzle. I received a comment today that was about how many comments the poem recieved. Hello! What the hell. I also received a comment that went on and on about a misspelled word that was spelled correctly. Sheesh!

User	Jess | 2004-09-26 |
Subject	untitled
Message	I submitted quite a bad second poem today but i enjoyed the comments so much!! Not all of them were good obviously and they did smart a bit but the bad poem was worth it! The critisms were constructive. And it does take practise to be able to comment wisely on other peoples work too. Great site!

User	Aksuri | 2004-09-25 |
Subject	untitled
Message	Some people use the writing as a writing prompt and give you a story or just complain about it’s theme. Others critique every little detail of what you did wrong and what you did write. Others will tell you you’re a mad genius and to keep writing because they’re going to check out your work l8tr becuz OMG it ROxORs!! It’s up to you to be specific in your description in order to specify what annoys you. e.g. 1. Don’t compliment the fuck out of me. 2. Read it. Sorry, but all of it. 3. If you do comment, comment on something related to the writing I just submitted. 4. If you have any, give suggestions for improvements.

User	nameless_nobody | 2004-09-25 |
Subject	untitled
Message	the coment is for talking about the poem. saying what you thought. as long as people are being honest in coments i dont care what they write. im just greatfull people are looking at my poems and they are getting out of my doodle books. i dont expect anything back. im greatfull for anything people want to say.