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    dots Submission Name: Ask and Ask and Ask to be Forgivendots

    Author: AptPupilofLife2
    ASL Info:    18/M/Berkeley,CA
    Elite Ratio:    6.79 - 113/131/48
    Words: 81
    Class/Type: Poetry/Misc
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    dotsAsk and Ask and Ask to be Forgivendots

    Ask to be Forgiven,
    Go ahead and ask again.
    The Water always asks
    The Wall to be let in.

    And the Wall always answers,
    Again, Just the same as before,
    If I gave you what you want
    You wouldn’t want it anymore!

    The Sea never understands,
    the Wall knows all too well.
    But it won't forget the church,
    the indulgences they'd sell.

    And everyone bought,
    And no one learned.
    Forgiveness is a thing
    Which must be earned.

    Submitted on 2006-11-08 17:31:22     Terms of Service / Copyright Rules
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      a good poem . I'm glad it is just an opinion with the last stanza being a farce.
    The doctrine of indulgences is a holy thing. It backs up Holy Scripture. Jesus said,no one gets into Heaven until the last farthing has been paid. Since there is no escape from Hell once there, then Jesus must have been teaching there is an in between state of purification . The Church sees this as a place called Purgatory. It is a place where the departed souls from earth go who are not bad enough to merit Hell. Since nothing defiled can enter Heaven then souls must spend a certain amount of time in Purgatory to cleanse themselves in order to enter Heaven. Judeaus Machabeus in the Book of Machabees states that it is a pure and wholesome thought to pray for the dead that they may be released from their sins. This is where Indulgences comes in. The living on earth in their faith in Jesus and His teachings do good works for the forgiveness of their sins. These good works are called indulgences(which means persevere in your faith by doing good works for a gracious reward in the afterlife. Since The Church doesn't know the amount of time God allows a soul to remain in Purgatory before being cleansed for Heaven, The Church has assigned amounts of days and years to good works performed. For instance a person gains 100 days for saying the Lord's Prayer or a Hail Mary or The Gloria.
    If the person has amassed too many indulgenced time then that person's good works is applied to another needy soul.
    In reference to Reformation times, Saint Peter's Churc h was being built. It was a good work to contribute to the building of a Church;therefore the faithful gave money to its construction. In doing so they gained an indulgence. A monk,Martin Luther, saw that the wealthy were amassing many many indulgences when the poor were gaining none. Martin made a big stink out of the situation. He had overlooked the fact that The Church teaches that a person's unneeded indulgences were not horded by that person but were distributed to all the needy in Purgatory. This great misunderstanding caused The Great Schism which came to be known as Protestantism.
    The Church had and has ever taught that Faith without good works is dead and that good works performed without Faith is equally dead. Therefore good works performed without
    Faith goes into what the Church calls The Deposit of Faith of which the merits of those good works goes to the needy in Purgatory.
    In this manner good works always has its reward.
    I took the poem to be a recapture of what misunderstanding can do.
    | Posted on 2006-11-13 00:00:00 | by realpoet | [ Reply to This ]

    A simple nice and short poem, very enjoyable to read. I liked the introduction, it helped showing the conflict straight away.

    "Again, Just the same as before!"

    I would not have the J capitalized.

    "If I gave you what you want
    You wouldn’t want it anymore!"

    I loved that part of some reason. A perfect together melted part, which really elegantly floated together.

    The last verse felt "short" like if the sentences were not quite finished. Perhaps that has something to do with the lenght of the other verses.

    But I clearly understand the point, and the use of the metaphors was brilliant! A very good poem indeed..

    Hugs :)
    | Posted on 2006-11-09 00:00:00 | by ChrystalR | [ Reply to This ]
      Wow, A very simple, meaningful and charming piece of poetry.
    I love the comparison of forgiveness and the sea, it sounds so prophetic and oriental in nature
    Do you write fortune cookies?

    Sorry I'd like to help you improve here, but I can't possibly think how
    Lovely work
    | Posted on 2006-11-08 00:00:00 | by Localfreak | [ Reply to This ]

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