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    dots Submission Name: Theists vs. atheists: Scientific View (1st Post)dots
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        Theism vs. atheism. I will write several posts giving as unbiased look and review of heavy topics. Do you think science is pointing to completely random events being the cause of life...or is it pointing the other direction to intelligent design? I will leave you do your own opinion.


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    dotsTheists vs. atheists: Scientific View (1st Post)dots
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    In the mid 1960's there was much controversy over the material being used in public schools. There were riots, people killed, and this carried as far as the Federal government. When it first started in West Virginia people around the country were clueless as to what the chaos was all about. It would later be discovered that it was entirely about what was being taught to children in school.
    In those times, and from then on, children have been taught the ideas of evolution, the big bang, and natural selection. This turned many people away from faith. In fact it still does turn many away from faith.
    Darwin proposed the idea of evolution and it was an immediate hit in the scientific community. Many thought of it as THE explaination as to the origions of life on this planet. Later in his life Darwin would say that he meant to limit Christianity, not murder it. In the end he very nearly did murder it. Only the very faithful or the very gullable could deny what was then, scientific fact.
    Today these people believing in these ideas are labled Darwinist, Naturalist, or Materialist. I will now address some of the ideas that have turned so many people away from faith and to facts.
    In the late 1950s many pictures arose of a scientist creating amino acids from a replication of what the early Earth's atmosphere would have been like. Dr. Miller used an atmosphere of sulfur, hydrogen, and water vapor and induced some electricity to create these amino acids. To many this completely disproved the idea of creation since such enzymes could occure naturally.
    In fact with the atmosphere Dr. Miller used the result would be a mixture of amonia and flamaldahide. In a sense this is embalming fluid. It would be rediculious to concure that life could exist in this.
    You could take a single celled organism, put it into a sterile salene solution and poke a hole in it and allow it to drain completely into the test tube and you would have accomplished far more than the Miller experiments ever could have. The mixture could sit for a thousand years and the truth is that the organism will never come back to life. It would be the equivalent to a physist trying to make a rock fall upwards all the way to the moon. It is very highly unlikely it will ever happen.
    I will adress more issues like evolution, Darwin's Tree of Life, as well as other issues in later posts.
    -John Ryan




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      Where did the first cell come from? If God exists, where did he/she/it come from?

    Data can always be altered (the reason psychiatry exists). Stories passed down the ages also change (ever played telephone as a child?) Both science and religion can be used as tools to further poilitical goals.

    The Vatican withholds sizeable portions of the Bible (supposedly). Scientists also withhold data. I say, trust neither. Take everything you read or hear with a grain of salt.
    | Posted on 2007-02-10 00:00:00 | by fo | [ Reply to This ]
      You could still believe in God, and the theory of evolution, and the big bang. Just read the Vangello delle Strega. Good read, completely confusing. This was good though, I liked this, very informative. The organisms changing to me, is just the normal flow of life. There's always a cycle to everything, you just have to take notice of it. Anyhow, this was great, I love this, and I do hope you post more. Thanks so much!
    Be blessed,
    ~Azura*
    | Posted on 2007-02-09 00:00:00 | by EmpathicAya | [ Reply to This ]
      I think we have something of a misnomer here as far as the title of the topic is concerned. Theists vs. atheists would be literally those who believe there is a God versus those who believe there is no God.

    Yet there are a great many people including both scientists and medical doctors who firmly believe in God and at the same time fully accept the principles of "modern evolutionary synthesis" as that particular science has itself evolved.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_evolutionary_synthesis)

    The collective reasoning is based upon observation and indeed, implementation of changes to life forms, both plant and animal. There is no question that organisms change, either by "natural selection" or genetic manipulation processes, however (and this is the biggie) we have yet to generate even a spark of life where there was none beforehand.

    That is truly where the question of God comes in.
    | Posted on 2007-02-09 00:00:00 | by Blue Monk | [ Reply to This ]


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