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    dots Submission Name: The River Flowsdots

    Author: realpoet
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    Words: 217
    Class/Type: Poetry/Serious
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       To those unfamiliar with the contents of this grievously rhymed poem (done so on purpose), let me explain: Tradition has it that John, The Baptiser, had the people come down into the Jordan River as a symbol of changing one's life-style in repentance for aggressive evil behavior. John did not dunk the people. He used a vessel filled with water and poured its contents over the repentant's head. The river was a symbol that Jesus carries everyone's sins. The river's current symbolized that Jesus forgives and forgets all sins against The Father's will. The vessel of water that John poured upon the head ssymbolized individuals willing to let their sins enter into the forgiving river of Jesus' love. The last verse has John baptising Jesus to show that Jesus was The Father's annointed one. John's baptising did not take away original sin (the sin of disobedience all humans inherited from Adam and Eve) since Jesus,The Sacrificial Lamb, had not been crucified to make such forgiveness possible.

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    Brother John, Brother John, Why do you baptise?
    Know you not we are circumcised?
    "Yes,I do, but water satisfies
    a thirst deeper than a knife's incise."

    But Brother John, the water is filthy;
    to spread a germ we'd feel guilty,
    besides, the water is murky, even silty.
    "But, my friends, your will is so wilty."

    Yes, Brother John, we go our way ,
    knowing not what's in the day,
    but this water is only a display;
    the rabbis look on you in dismay.

    "Perhaps so, perhaps so, my human kin
    the line between love and hate is very thin;
    you say,'now is now and then is then',
    but the hour to come you know not when."

    True, true, Brother John, we know not the hour
    but seeing bud we know there'll be flower
    and seeing frown we know there's feeling, dour,
    but this water makes us cower.

    "Look, my friends, see who's coming
    of His song I'm only struming;
    His words will set you humming,
    no more will you be fumbling."

    "I pour this water on your head
    In symbol of the Serpent's dread,
    but you, my Lord, give me bread
    and in your joy I'm happily fed."

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      In you comments on The River Flows , I have to disagree with all professors who consign Christianity to that of a philosphy. Aside from the Jewish , Christianity is the only religion that needs not a philosophy. ( If indeed philosophy is only a subjugation as to the explanation of existence or non-extinence. To some Christianity is a mythical teaching purely because it came along at the epochal time when mytical gods and goddesses were a dime-a-dozen . This was the chosen time for The One and Only Creator of things living an no-livinng to show that Imperialism belonged only to Him. Aside from Him all other reasoninngs (of philosophy )were figments of mortals trying to explain the reasonings for their existence. As for 'evolutionist spirituality',it ceased to be with the bursting forth of Jesus upon the scene. He did not have a philosophy. He told the truth that comes from The All Truth. When He departed from this earth Revelation and philosophy came to an end. During His life time He revealed the all of revelation which from time to time is allowed to be refreshed in the mind of the church through the refreshing of The Holy Spirit.
    | Posted on 2008-11-06 00:00:00 | by realpoet | [ Reply to This ]
      I'm not a Christian but I am very interested in spirituality, because I have a lot of notes about religion resulting from an assignment in a philosophy course; and when I decided to write a lot of poetry (not a little as previously ...) I started using spirituality as an angle to give my poetry an overall theme. I decided to back the evolutionists, in the current controversy about evolution versus creation. It's a quarrel for fools only, but quite popular nowadays! Hmm. Anyway, I develop a way of thinking called "evolutionist sprirituality" which doesn't use supernaturalism.

    Getting to the point: in this poem, you explain what the divine spirit does for a person and a community, very clearly but - this is about poetic technique now - you have used the tropes, the metaphors and figures of speech, provided by church bureaucracy and everybody knows these figures already: it is old poetry and although the ideas being taught are always fresh, the mythical symbols and so on need new clothes for new times. That's the job of a poetry reader to look for; so I criticize your piece here by saying I didn't find any fresh, memorable device in your imagery.

    How do you do that (if you want to)? There are so many approaches to this problem and they are all in the poetry of the past that has got well-known because they were successful in that! Reading poets is much more instructive than listening to critics ... !

    You are an unscrupulous, irrepressible and very entertaining rhymer! Everybody (well nearly everybody) loves a poet who loves rhyme, because it has a lot to do with the meaning of the verse, and with music too, a tradition which many poets mistakenly despise just because it's a tradition.
    | Posted on 2008-11-05 00:00:00 | by Glen Bowman | [ Reply to This ]
      I’m greatly impressed with your knowledge in John the baptizer and the meaning behind baptism and what it meant when Jesus was baptized. I may be wrong but a lot of people have forgotten such a moment in life. This is but just a reminder of what it was then. I’m pleased with this poem, it was written out so magnificently. You have certainly served your name. Thank you for sharing.

    | Posted on 2008-10-23 00:00:00 | by faideddarkness | [ Reply to This ]
      You know, I haven't read a Christian poem (or a poem that even related to Christianity) that I liked in a long time, but this one is GREAT. I'm not that big of a Christian myself, my faith has worn thin quite a bit, but this poem portrays John the Baptist very well and it portrays the attitudes of the people in Bible times very acurately. I love the symbolism used because it seems like something that would actually be in the Bible itself. Very well written. And another thing: good job with the rhyming. I used to have my poems rhyme, but they didn't flow the way I liked it. This one , however, flows great and the rhyming adds to it. I'm definitely adding it to my favorites.
    | Posted on 2008-10-14 00:00:00 | by FlickerofHope | [ Reply to This ]
      That is sweetness. To qote the great "Z", "I love it, I love it, I love it!" I would full expect to see this in a christian childrens book. I normally leave much better comments, but in this case...Nuf said
    | Posted on 2008-10-10 00:00:00 | by nicodemous | [ Reply to This ]

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