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    dots Submission Name: Divinitydots

    Author: cuddledumplin
    ASL Info:    36/ f/UK
    Elite Ratio:    4.08 - 6269/5927/526
    Words: 35
    Class/Type: Poetry/Misc
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        I'll say that the poem means whatever you want it to mean, but I'm not a religious person. My point is that ideas are the property of everyone (not that I advocate plagarism or theft). I also was thinking of Michelangelo's insistence that David was in the stone, and he only freed him. Nothing is truly unique. We're only being uniquely derivative.

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    The poem is always here:
    the poet merely claims it
    the way people stake claims
    on God's land
    calling it their own, their home.
    In this way, this piece of divinity is mine.

    Submitted on 2004-02-11 04:27:16     Terms of Service / Copyright Rules
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      Wow.... you know you've done something right when people feel compelled to argue/defend/demean/contradict/"understand" your work. I love the comparison to the David, and it brought the poem into PERFECT clarity. I think I would have gotten it anyway, though. The poem is always there, the poet merely claims it.... how often do we say that "it just... writes itself"? C'est magnifique! <><
    | Posted on 2004-03-21 00:00:00 | by WorththeWait | [ Reply to This ]
      You've done well with this piece. You've tapped into that inate spirituality we all possess, probably in equal measure but some are more capable of squeezing theirs out.
    And that's what informs moral judgement and right and wrong.
    I took a shine to Steinbeck's failed preacher Jobe when he said "There aint no right and there aint no wrong, there's just stuff people do". (or something like that!)
    Small wonder he hung his boots up but he recognised that there are few if any moral absolutes...
    Thanks for Divinity
    | Posted on 2004-02-11 00:00:00 | by Awkward | [ Reply to This ]
      Wow dumplin, great piece, and it certainly sparked some response. I like the statement you're making, it makes me think about words in a way I never considered before. You always impress.
    | Posted on 2004-02-11 00:00:00 | by DevilDinosaur | [ Reply to This ]
      pardon my abrasion and pardon my typing....
    many thanks
    | Posted on 2004-02-11 00:00:00 | by on1eday.co.uk | [ Reply to This ]
      like i said this will no doubt cause much discussion and for that it must be given credit. its a shame you felt the need to explain/defend/reveal what the piece was 'about' this defeats many objects and does not allow us to open our mind so freely and the way we want to. you already hold much bitterness towarsd me so it will make no difference to me/you when i say that i [my opinion!] feel you need to stop being so sefensive. not from a defending your poen point of view but from a commentating point of view. this is ingluencing many of your comments and fuelling you to write comments without foundation or reason [in my opinion]. not that i expect any comments on a personal level but the last few comments that i have seen have no appraisal of the piece in question merely a floating comment, or dig in my cases, not that it matters to me in any way, but it will matter to some.....
    i respect that we live in different worlds but i always try to give unbiased comments to speculate on pieces. i took much from this piece yet it seems it was not enough....
    and as for your chum silverdog, the comments made were targeted towards my direction which i like, i think they must have not read the word 'GOD' in your piece, cos i sure did. i think you wrestled the religious issue well, whether intended or not, and provocation can be very positive...
    | Posted on 2004-02-11 00:00:00 | by on1eday.co.uk | [ Reply to This ]
      This is a good thought Amy, a profound thought compactly presented as a comparison in simple words. I don't see how people get so uppity about matters pertaing to the spiritual. You didn't mention religion (a man-made thing)..only Divinity,..but I guess the word means different things to different people To me, it is clear you are talking about imagination....that part of man's spiritual anatomy that is an enigma but also the driving force behind all art forms and all civilization's progress. As you say . there is nothing new under the sun..... and that's what I hear in this short poem. I think everyone has been intrigued or confounded at one time by the wispy intangibility of "Imagination" , and its' undeniable spiritual origins. From the wheel, to the Cistine chapel, the Tay Majhal, the Illiad, to the computor, nuclear bombs....all came literally out of thin air..and yet we assign human "Creators" names to those things.

    Consider this quote from Michealangelo
    "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. "
    Well done . Silver
    | Posted on 2004-02-11 00:00:00 | by Silverdog | [ Reply to This ]
      I understand where you are coming from and your message. I also understand where on1day.co.uk is coming from... you have religious undertones on who owns one's mind, and how one chooses to word his or her thoughts, when our minds were clearly given to us to choose how to use them.... to comment much further will surely open a religious debate... so my comment is that this is very insightful, i understand it, and i understand your feelings in writing it, not so sure that personally I agree with all of it... nice work
    | Posted on 2004-02-11 00:00:00 | by Crash | [ Reply to This ]
      What I was trying to say in Divinity is that the words were here. I merely arranged them. It's the old idea of "There is nothing new under the sun."
    | Posted on 2004-02-11 00:00:00 | by cuddledumplin | [ Reply to This ]
      hmmm this is a very bold statement. one i respect in many ways but am not sure in others. i like the way you are provoking thought from adjacent angles,,,tell me one thing. is this a belief of yours or mere speculation?..
    because to believe this is to beleieve that everything that has ever existed did so before it existed, before its birth. do you feel this about us as a race, is this one of the hidden meanings in this piece? not so hidden i ask this qustion to the readers as wellas the writer,,,
    was this land gods before god existed. i feel this is the shortcoming because there is a contradiction in saying that something existed [everything existed] before its birth yet this land belongs t one god or entity.....
    you juxtapose irony and potential contradiction well in this piece showing ambivalence[!;-)]tho i still feel the need for more bite and direction....
    i hope that people really think about what you are saying here because it is very provocative and has the potential to open many doors in peoples minds if they just let it. so dont just go; comment and think, cos this comment here was mine before i wrote it....
    throwing religious undertones in a piece can be a powerful tool....
    this land belongs to no one or nothing. in my mind the concept of property or ownership just does not exist because there is no control, both in terms of perception and conviction...
    | Posted on 2004-02-11 00:00:00 | by on1eday.co.uk | [ Reply to This ]

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