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    dots Submission Name: the history of one mandots
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    Author: deadndreaming
    Elite Ratio:    6.78 - 1347/1241/78
    Words: 385
    Class/Type: Poetry/Longing
    Total Views: 544
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    Description:
       this was originally written in response to the girlinthephoto piece the history of one woman. It came to me immediately upon reading her beautiful poem, and was originally left as a comment to her piece, as I wondered how He might feel about Her today. I've heard that some of you find it difficult to read due to the spacing, which intended to depict the space between the two main characters in the poem. I cleaned it up with a second version to clarify. Upon further review, I felt the polished version lacked much of the soul of the original, hence, the original stays. I hope to take the time soon to tweak this version a bit, so if you have any suggestions I'd love to hear em. Thanks a bundle.


    Make the font bigger!! Double Spacing Back to recent posts.

    dotsthe history of one mandots
    -------------------------------------------


    How can it be that so many years have passed? It still feels
    like goodbye was but a reprieve,
                                                               a holiday,
    to sort things out.
    Things have been sorted, but like laundry
    another load is always in the making.

    You though, never needed sorting at all.
    You were everclean, everfresh on my mind,
                                                               my lips,
    the tip of my tongue.
    You lifted me up and took me to places
    I had been before but never noticed
    (for from a different perspective comes a different view)

    You opened me up and took from me good I never knew existed.
    Our world left mor(t)ality behind:
    reality was but
                  my hand on the nape of your neck,
                  your eyes erasing the ground and
    escorting me to something higher than this mess of ticking earth.

    Ultimately, choices were made, or made for us.
    (Choices made before we even met)

    To know that I still wake each morning with Your arms
                                                               wrapped in my mind,
    and lay down each night, seeing Our dreams in tomorrow
    may very well be as inconsequential to you
    as a grain of sand on the beaches that line the ocean that separates us,
                                                               but to me,
    it's what gives me the balance to stand.

    In my mind, I find you with each passing moment,

                                                               frozenintime,

    still in the shadow c a s t in the same light
    as the last time
                                                               we touched.
    And this is where you will always remain,
    as much a part of me as is the sun part of the day.

    All those things that were Us are again locked away,
    as if photos in a chest in an attic,
    where I stow away on rainy days,
                                                               reminiscing
    of a life that might have been had the sorting been done
    by your me,
    instead of hers.



    Let go of me now.



    You deserve so much more than the ghost of a dream
    that was too weak to speak midnight truth
                                                               to midday reckoning




    Submitted on 2005-03-15 11:18:16     Terms of Service / Copyright Rules
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    ||| Comments |||
      In this stanza, you said:

    "You though, never needed sorting at all.
    You were everclean, everfresh on my mind,
    my lips"

    And though the image sticks, I wonder if there is a better or smoother choice of words than "everclean" and "everfresh" if only because, to be honest, it sounded a little hokey <yeah, even though I knew what you were trying to achieve here with a kind of phonetic parallelism, but still, there has to be a better way . . . so I say experiment!>

    The next stanza is terrific and then in this one:

    "You opened me up and took from me good I never knew existed.
    Our world left mor(t)ality behind:
    reality was but
    my hand on the nape of your neck,
    your eyes erasing the ground and
    escorting me to something higher than this mess of ticking earth. "

    I am wondering what the significance of the "mor(t)ality" is? And why you chose this device, if you please? I know you had a reason but I just can't seem to shift my brain into gear. Sorry about that! But it's a beautiful idea and I especially love the use of one of those concept words I'm always harping about, but here "reality" is so damned appropriate I can only applaud.

    In this next section:

    "In my mind, I find you with each passing moment,

    frozenintime,

    still in the shadow c a s t in the same light
    as the last time
    we touched.
    And this is where you will always remain,
    as much a part of me as is the sun part of the day.

    All those things that were Us are again locked away,
    as if photos in a chest in an attic,
    where I stow away on rainy days,
    reminiscing
    of a life that might have been had the sorting been done
    by your me,
    instead of hers."

    You've gone after a few typographical effects that are a bit distracting, since they were introduced so late in the poem, and while clever <well, as these things go> I think they detract from the piece.

    Now the last two "strophes", actually let me paste them as well:

    "Let go of me now.

    You deserve so much more than the ghost of a dream
    that was too weak to speak midnight truth
    to midday reckoning"

    I suggest switching these around. I loved the finality of "Let go of me now" and felt a little dismayed when there was more after it. But, the last strophe is very necessary to the poem's overall message, so the only thing I can think to say is swap em.

    And that's about it. Maybe not the most complete or stunning analysis you've ever had from me, but this is probably because this is one of those semi-confessional, romantic pieces that are so difficult to detach for me. Their sentiment overpowers reason, and I am not immune to the grand, lingering effect.

    Well done, my friend.
    | Posted on 2005-06-01 00:00:00 | by Vancrown | [ Reply to This ]
      To be perfectly honest with you, I just want to hit random letters and talk in monosyllabic nonsensical remarks (funny how none of those are actually monosyllabic).

    Why, you might ask?

    Because I read this, and realised my cheeks were wet by the end. That I was flicking my cigarette in a very 'Im trying to pretend Im not at all moved, but really really am' way. And then I had scroll down for ages and ages to get to this silly little box, and leave you nothing but a stupid, pointless comment, and that made me a little angry. But I shall try to make sense ...because I owe it to anyone who evokes such emotions...

    "Things have been sorted, but like laundry
    another load is always in the making. "

    Laundry has always been such an ambiguous (sp?) image...but always so intimate..its something that is done within a relationship, within a household of sorts...something that takes His life and Her life, and puts it through a spin cycle, and infuses it with a common scent, and tumble dries it all together, all the layers of a person, of people just soaking together...

    And I cant believe you've got me going on in such detail about laundry - but if anyone could do it, it would probably be you...

    "You lifted me up and took me to places
    I had been before but never noticed
    (for from a different perspective comes a different view)"

    Beautiful image - my only thought is to take away the 'for' - it overloads the line, and makes it lean and seem to topple off balance...it works well without it...

    "Our world left mor(t)ality behind: "

    Wow. Morality, mortality....just one teeny letter makes such an impact, such a difference. Really very wow (there you go, monosyllabic cookie crap....)

    "Ultimately, choices were made, or made for us.
    (Choices made before we even met) "

    Not too sure about this...its kind of implicit, isnt it...maybe just have one 'choices made' instead of three slightly variating ones?

    "To know that I still wake each morning with Your arms
    wrapped in my mind,
    and lay down each night, seeing Our dreams in tomorrow
    may very well be as inconsequential to you
    as a grain of sand on the beaches that line the ocean that separates us,
    but to me,
    it's what gives me the balance to stand. "

    Pass me the Kleenex (damn you, with your ability to command words and create images like these...)

    "still in the shadow c a s t in the same light "

    I really dont understand the importance of the formatting of 'cast'...do explain it to me....

    "reminiscing
    of a life that might have been had the sorting been done
    by your me,
    instead of hers. "

    Did you mean 'you or me'? Or that the sorting should have been done by the man one woman knows, and not the other? I like the latter better, its incredible, and ties in with what I have to say on the title (but I'm saving that till the end)

    I felt like you could have (and maybe even should have) stopped at "Let go of me now"

    Maybe because Ive been repeating that to myself recently...maybe because it holds so much emotion in those 5 words...but it felt like closure...and then you added more on top of it, which consequently disturbed the closure feeling...(even though the lines after it are really striking)

    And the title...how ironic, how true, how lonely...first of all because its not the history of one man, there is never a history of one person, for that person has been touched by other people, and his history shaped and defined by them, and depends on them completely...different people could have created a completely different history, and its a fascinating thought...And then, of course, he is alone - or feels alone, as his lover is no longer with him, so he becomes just 'one man'....

    And before I go off on tangents and into the land of nonsensical remarks, I will force myself to stop, and go contemplate history and loneliness and memories and other things...

    Hope this actually makes sense to you, and some of it helps...

    A very quiet, wide-eyed, contemplating Cutia.....

    P.S. And no offense to the person that rated this a 4 - but he was WRONG. 5, not 4. Even 6, if they had it.
    | Posted on 2005-06-02 00:00:00 | by Katia | [ Reply to This ]
      i really like it. no complaint. it made me cry. wow. i really like the whole laundry metaphor you have going on. amazing job. just wow. speechless, yet again.
    | Posted on 2005-04-05 00:00:00 | by Lemmy | [ Reply to This ]
      you see, this is the stuff of those thin, small, hard backed novellas that you guess at the
    contents of. the ones read (and hugged close)
    by maiden aunts; those left with no marriage options; those hopelessly romantic to the point
    of idiocy.
    Having been too crippled to comment for the last week or so by the inherent fragility of Bill
    Gates'most perfect platform, I have been spared the urge to dive in and concur (or not) with the others' already fulsome jottings.
    This will work to your and my advantage I think because I have not read the first pom either -
    just this.
    So then.
    stage asides. talking sotto voce to the camera on your side of the broadsheet newspaper. this is what this is: a documentary of
    breakfast on your own, with others in the nook, at the table, asking for the sugar...
    tragic (for the lovers) in its outcome and blissfully free of puke-inducing myopic navel gazing.
    the diary of Clozebutt Noeziggar.
    another load was forever in the making...
    ace
    k

    I am as pleased as you are in your way that your girl is once again where she should be. the small have an inherent importance that is in sublime contradiction to their size.
    thankfully.
    | Posted on 2005-03-30 00:00:00 | by Awkward | [ Reply to This ]
      Hi Dave, I'm so glad your daughter is ok, all of us lovers do our best as you know.

    On this one I like the second version best. I am a stickler when it comes to gobbling poetry. It's not my style to read it fast as though it's nothing. It is! Consequently, "slowly, as if to savor" is my style of consumption. The graphics and breaks lead me right into this on version 2, if you submit this one that's what I would recommend. Why? It spells out the hesitation he feels of keeping her in his mind. It works also as a device to demonstrate his love and desire.

    Also, I love the last lines but felt like the poem really needs to end with this idea..

    Let go of me now.

    So I would do this..

    You deserve much more than
    the ghost of a dream
    too weak to speak midnight truth
    to midday reckoning...

    Let go of me now.

    I edited a bit and made the last verse almost like
    the message inside a card. Hope you like it, because that's the last thought she needs to see. Great job
    Dave, thanks for sharing,
    much love,
    Nan
    | Posted on 2005-03-26 00:00:00 | by nansofast | [ Reply to This ]
      i have no idea where to begin with this piece... at the end i am overwhelmed by so many different things its hard to separate myself to tell you how brilliantly well done this is.

    i vividly remember Nancy's poem that inspired this write and without going back to read it i know that this works with it, compliments it perfectly.
    the irregular crazy like spacing is tastefully done and i dont think you should change it... it adds to the message so much that i feel the piece would be lacking if it were to be changed.

    i love the sorting out/laundry/always another load idea and then her perfection shining through... her complete sortedness... when i read that all i could think of was Audrey Hepburn in Breakfast at Tiffanys (one of my all
    | Posted on 2005-06-15 00:00:00 | by Someones Epiphany | [ Reply to This ]
      well, you got plenty of comments this time, so probably don't need mine, but your revision is an improvement, although I really liked the original. the revision does seem to flow better. there is one thing though: isn't it you that needs to let go?
    | Posted on 2005-03-20 00:00:00 | by sierramuse8 | [ Reply to This ]
      Hey David,

    You are probably going to want to kick my a$$ for this, heck I am going to want to kick my own a$$ for this, but to be perfectly honest, my personal opinion is that you cleaned it up a bit too much.

    I liked the way that you cleaned up the first stanza i
    the line about a holiday. It makes it flow much more smoothly and takes nothing away from the intention of the words.

    However, I really liked the format, if you will, of the lines when he was directly reflecting on his time spent with her.
    "You were everclean, everfresh on my mind,
    my lips,"

    "as the last time
    we touched. "
    See, the way these were written, with that kind of "dramatic pause" really made it clear that those memories, however cherished, are painful. It feels like he is struggling to summon the breath it will take to force those memories to form into words on his lips. I think I am rambling a little bit, but my point is, perhaps you could strike a balance between the two, the original version and the clean one. Yeah, see how rude of me. I just asked you to write it a THIRD time. ;)

    Otherwise, I love what this poem is saying and having read the inspiration piece, you did one heck of a job putting this together. Its always more intriguing and honest when you hear both sides of the same story.

    Joye
    | Posted on 2005-03-20 00:00:00 | by pinurplepassion | [ Reply to This ]
      Hey!

    I definitely think the revised version is a smoother read. Although you're still saying everything you said before, but now... it *whizzes* past, while before it seemed quite long and drawn out.
    I notice that you picked and chose between the suggestions I gave you, which is grand... but please, enlighten me as to the "mor(t)ality" thing...
    This new version definitely works better for me.
    I'm sorry if I troubled you, though...
    I'm off to watch Ireland trounce some sheep shagging ass...
    Have a good day!
    Lea
    | Posted on 2005-03-19 00:00:00 | by Learah | [ Reply to This ]
      in my opinion,
    and take what you will from it,
    far far better.
    take care
    on1eday.couk
    and now i have to ramble some useless words just like i normally do so that i can make this a wrhtwhile comment blah blah blah.
    | Posted on 2005-03-19 00:00:00 | by on1eday.co.uk | [ Reply to This ]
      I actually like the original format better. Maybe because it lets me know when and where you want extra emphasis in the lines or on words. I really like this! I actually got this. I didn’t find it confusing at all. Or at least I hope I got it. You are reminiscing about a lost love or unrequited love and then you realize that dreams are just that, dreams. You did this really unique and you certainly didn’t spoon feed us anything. I enjoyed this piece a lot. I have to check out girlinthephoto’s piece because for some unknown reason I don’t recall reading it. : ) I hope you have a great weekend. You did an excellent job with this.
    -blt
    | Posted on 2005-03-18 00:00:00 | by borderlinetears | [ Reply to This ]
      Gosh, I never thought I'd get down here...had to scroll for a few hours to get to the bottom of your comments! You sure are popular around here Mr. cool! Some long-winded folks seem to like you.

    Love the laundry bit...you're so right! as soon as it's "sorted" and put away...you spill kool aid on your shirt...so like life...there's always sweat and kool-aid. hahaha. But she never needed sorting? Sounds like this lady's on a pedestal in your memory. If it's over, take her off...(Dr. Phil here)..you sound like me... taking all the blame...

    OK, this got dark and painful as I read...it's like the anger is gone and acceptance of "end" has been found. Always a sobering moment. Ouch.
    "Your arms wrapped in my mind" was powerful.

    I like this quite a lot...your thoughts read in breaths and pauses...as if it's hard to get out. Sign of a good script writer...

    Peace brother...Happy equinox!
    | Posted on 2005-03-18 00:00:00 | by marysunshine | [ Reply to This ]
      Okie I haven't read the other comments and am just going to go by what I read, see, feel.

    One; This is way, way, way too messy. I don't like formatting anymore; once it was fresh and unique but I'm seeing it more and more. I always thought of formatting as something to be used to really highlight and define key moments and events and words, but I don't get that with this.
    What I get is distracted. I can't concentrate on the theme of the poem because the fecking format keeps irritating me and I go through the lines waiting to see what you're doing next.
    And that's not good.
    the read should be smooth and a method of capturing your reader's attention, drawing me in.
    this isn't smooth, it's got "edge", oh yeah, but it's so messy and disorganised and totally all over the shop.
    As I am being honest I will tell you that to truly appreciate what was going on here, I had to cut and paste into a text doc. so I could read without interruption.
    I'll paste the doc and the notes I made.

    How can it be that so many years have passed? It still feels
    *weird enjambment. Why do you choose to break there? If anything, I would do this:*
    "How can it be
    that so many years have passed?
    It still feels like
    "Goodbye."
    was but a reprieve,
    a holiday,
    to sort things out. "
    Things have been sorted, but like laundry
    *"things" is SUCH a plain, boring word that doesn't explain anything at all. I understand that you re following on from the preceeding lines, but, blah. If I ever catch myself using "things", I will sit there and find a way to explain without that word. Things can mean anything like sorting out the ingredients for dinner, the chool run in the morning, the estate of a deceased, new doggie-doo bags for the pooch.*
    "another load is always in the making. "
    I like that. Unusual, fresh, unique.

    You though, never needed sorting at all.
    You were everclean, everfresh on my mind,
    *No such word as "everclean/fresh" and I think it looks a bit pretentious. Was she only clean and fresh in the past, or is she still now? Because I read this and make it present tense to "mould" it in my critics way of making it "work".
    my lips,
    the tip of my tongue.
    You lifted me up and took me to places
    I had been before but never noticed
    (for from a different perspective comes a different view)
    *Ya need a period after those brackets. But I'm liking that.*

    You opened me up and took from me good I never knew existed.
    *That sentence is so awkward. "took from me good". You've used "me" already in the same line.
    "You opened me up and revealed goodness I didn't know existed" *
    Our world left mor(t)ality behind:
    *DUMP THOSE BRACKETS! What's the point? "Mor" isn't a single word. Neither is "ality". "T" doesn't stand alone. I can't find any meaning/reason for this at all, other than it was time for more format.*
    reality was but
    *I don't like this either. I keep seeing it the way my kids would say "Yeah, I was, but..." I keep seeing an excuse. I would remove the "but" and bring the "nape of your neck" line up so that it's one sentence together (reality was my hand on the nape of your neck).*
    my hand on the nape of your neck,
    your eyes erasing the ground and
    escorting me to something higher than this mess of ticking earth.
    *"something higher than this mess of ticking earth" is awkward again but I don't know what your nirvana was an so cannot tell you. But c'mon. Not "something".*

    Ultimately, choices were made, or made for us.
    (Choices made before we even met)

    To know that I still wake each morning with Your arms
    *I understand what you're doing here but really, this makes your poem sound like a Christian's devotion to God. I know you want to highlight her presence in your thougts (from dreams the night before?) but don't think this is the best way to do it, by capitalising "your". Rather... like in-jokes, there are things couples share. Someone could write about me and say, "I still wake each morning with your J'adoring arms" (because I wear J'adore perfume.) Or to wander off from the subject, something like "I wake each morning, rested in body but weary in soul from dancing with you in my dreams all night". Find your secrets. Share them with us... be subtle, and let us realise they are secrets ourself.*
    wrapped in my mind,
    and lay down each night, seeing Our dreams in tomorrow
    may very well be as inconsequential to you
    *by the time I got to this line, I'd completely lost track of what was going on because there's such a lot being said in every single line. Trying to carry a meaningful, complex statemnet like this is very difficult because it's important that the reader doesn't forget where they are. I hate having to go back and re-read.*

    as a grain of sand on the beaches that line the ocean that separates us,
    *Ehhh... this does seem a bit clichéd.*
    but to me,
    it's what gives me the balance to stand.

    In my mind, I find you with each passing moment,

    frozenintime,
    *I'd rather see something like "frozen in our time". Don't like the run-on of words.*

    still in the shadow c a s t in the same light
    *not liking the format to "cast"... all of a sudden I'm overwhelmed with formatting again. I think a comma after "shadow" would be useful.*
    as the last time
    we touched.
    And this is where you will always remain,
    as much a part of me as is the sun part of the day.
    *I think that you need to have a think about enjambment, to ensure that the importance of your lines isn't dwarfed by the length. In that one sentence, I have to remember what it is that is a part of you, and how important it is, using the sun-day similie.*

    All those things that were Us are again locked away,
    as if photos in a chest in an attic,
    where I stow away on rainy days,
    reminiscing
    of a life that might have been had the sorting been done
    *Break after "been".*
    by your me,
    *cap "me"*
    instead of hers.
    *And "hers", to show a third person*


    Let go of me now.



    You deserve so much more than the ghost of a dream
    that was too weak to speak midnight truth
    to midday reckoning
    *While I like this ending, I thinkl you need more contrast between the midnight and the midday. The midnight is secret, is passion, is dreams... the midday immediately brought me to mind of reality, harsh and brash. This is how I would rework it:
    "that was too weak to speak impassioned, midnight truth
    to cold, midday reckoning"*
    Hope I helped in some way?
    You be coo, witcha
    | Posted on 2005-03-18 00:00:00 | by Learah | [ Reply to This ]
      thanks for coming back.
    sometimes i want to shoot myself.
    in the face.

    but not yet.
    in the context of time and 'how it came out,'
    you have obviously created something natural because of that.
    and you could edit and re-edit based on things that people say who really dont know all that much.
    like me.
    so take it.
    leave it.
    do what you want with it.
    just dont ruin what you may have captured because of someone like me.

    take care
    and pop by whenever you want, you dont have to ask
    take care
    on1eday.co.uk
    | Posted on 2005-03-17 00:00:00 | by on1eday.co.uk | [ Reply to This ]
      well you know what i think of this in terms of the direct response so i won't go through that again.. i just do want to say that i cant think of a bigger compliment than a poem of mine inspiring you to write something.

    i have to admit it is hard to comment on this as a poem.. i can sit here and tell you that i like what you did with the formatting and the spacing and how specific lines stood out because they did (and they made me want to read them over again..)

    and there are certain points where things seem a bit awkward and might need polishing off.. but then like you said.. there is something raw about this and that is where it's power lies.. because you've just laid out these emotions that are so personal.. and the way they emerged almost spontaneously.. i think that is what makes this such a poignant poem.. that i think is what makes it so 'haunting' as Alia put it..

    i know this is probably as useless a comment as they come.. and i'm sorry.. but it's the best i can do.
    | Posted on 2005-03-17 00:00:00 | by girlinthephoto | [ Reply to This ]
      I have not read the comments above, but I did read your intrductioin and, as far as I am concerned, you have all said too much. I enjoy poetry that is fresh and vibrant. No matter that classical form, metre, rhyme and all the other conventions are discarded to make place for a real tear and conversational tone. What happens when something so strikes a poetic mind as to cause a spontaneous reaction is that heart and mind meld and even the form and unconventional conventions and broken rhythms unite in an orchestration that ebbs and flows and climaxes beautifully. This draws the reader in on a journey through the speaker's reality. The theme is universal enough for quick identification and the longing, though suppressed is so strong that it carries that soulful song on very distant winds. You shouldn't edit this, too much to lose. I'm very fond of girlinthephoto and her works by the way, I just sometimes wish she would write persona poetry and get different perspectives in there. We should expand our craft to express more than our own thoughts and feelings sometimes.
    | Posted on 2005-03-16 00:00:00 | by Lelik | [ Reply to This ]
      I think you have a typo in "You though, never needed sorting at all. " I like:

    You were everclean, everfresh on my mind,
    my lips,
    the tip of my tongue.
    You lifted me up and took me to places
    I had been before but never noticed
    (for from a different perspective comes a different view)

    I like the idea of always being fresh to someone, and I think every romantic relationship I've had has given me a new perspective, so that is very true.

    I'd rephrase "You opened me up and took from me good I never knew existed" slightly. I think I'd say "took me from good." I really love "Our world left mor(t)ality behind." I like the little ways you exploit the English language for wit.

    reality was but
    my hand on the nape of your neck,
    your eyes erasing the ground and
    escorting me to something higher than this mess of ticking earth.

    I love the idea of eyes erasing the ground. That's an amazing idea.

    Ultimately, choices were made, or made for us.
    (Choices made before we even met)
    To know that I still wake each morning with Your arms
    wrapped in my mind,
    and lay down each night, seeing Our dreams in tomorrow
    may very well be as inconsequential to you
    as a grain of sand on the beaches that line the ocean that separates us,
    but to me,
    it's what gives me the balance to stand.

    That's also excellent. Who ever knows what truly separates people (Unless it's some slut, kidding)?

    I like the typographical quirks in:

    In my mind, I find you with each passing moment,

    frozenintime,

    still in the shadow c a s t in the same light
    as the last time
    we touched.

    What I like about your quirks is that they're so witty. I'm not that clever.

    All those things that were Us are again locked away,
    as if photos in a chest in an attic,
    where I stow away on rainy days,
    reminiscing
    of a life that might have been had the sorting been done
    by your me,
    instead of hers.


    Let go of me now

    The last stanza is heartbreaking. I suppose we've all been in relationships pulled apart by fate, but this is melancholicly lovely. This is an excellent piece, my friend.
    | Posted on 2005-03-15 00:00:00 | by cuddledumplin | [ Reply to This ]
      And now you have left me completely speechless. The kind of emotion I felt when you wrote Alia is rising in me yet again, and I don't know what to do/say about it.

    This is so painfully real, like this person has two loves in his life. The mor(t)ality thing gave that away, and so did leaving this woman to go to... whoever else it is that he wanted.

    And I guess this is why the majority of couples are breaking up or divorcing because, well, love is sometimes just a twisted emotion.

    But who am I to know? I haven't been on my own yet, so it's not right of me to make such assumptions.

    I will tell you that your formatting of this piece was haunting. The spacing you used resembled the space between the man, his lover, and this other woman... if there even was one.

    This is haunting me. I can't put my finger on it right now. I'll get back to you later.

    Alia
    | Posted on 2005-03-15 00:00:00 | by Storm of Bliss | [ Reply to This ]
      Such love, and then nothing, just memories. This is so sad and so beautifully written, I just dont know what to say. After reading this, you just have to sit back and breathe. I think I'll do that right now.
    Please dont change this at all.
    Carol
    | Posted on 2005-03-15 00:00:00 | by wannabe1 | [ Reply to This ]
      I had to read this more than once because it was so beautiful and personal. I am sure it's going to speak to alot of people. There are many people who can't erase the past of loves that meant an exceptional amount to them. Letting go is easier said than done and often takes years. Sometimes it can't be released until someone else comes along. And sometimes we let other people rule our lives over our own preferences or desires that it becomes an accepted way of life. And fear of change and rejection most often is involved in there somewhere as well. Your poem speaks to many of my own difficulties on a very personal level. (I only charge $75 an hour for counseling services) you need to stop writing love poems. (of course, you know, I'm just being sarcastic). this is one of your best poems ever. now I have to write one, dammit.
    | Posted on 2005-03-16 00:00:00 | by sierramuse8 | [ Reply to This ]
      First of all I just read hte piece in question by Girlinthephoto and I have to say this piece is beyond an amazng compliment to her piece they really do go hand in hand I think its awesome you wrote it as a responce write after reading her piece. And if I hadn't already taken in your prior works I would have sworn she wrote it(I mean that as a compliment) because I feel you Caught the exact same tone she used but just made it masculine.

    "You deserve so much more than the ghost of a dream
    that was too weak to speak midnight truth
    to midday reckoning"

    That last part to me was the clincher for the piece. Through out the piece you make hints to things that could be thought of an other wordly presence and that last bit just brings it toegther in a way that any I think could understand. the thoughts of what was, those fadding memories in the back of your mind you want and dont want at the same time to get rid of. BEcause after all the years you can no longer tell what the fight was about or why the scars were formed in the first place, you only know that there was something other then pain involved . I feel like its one of those situations that when it ended he was pissed off and hurt , bitter, but now looking back he thinks wow I was no angel and I was not the only one to get hurt back then. So yeah Im impressed with this write and with hers. BRAVO!-John
    | Posted on 2005-03-16 00:00:00 | by Mithrandir | [ Reply to This ]
      dave,
    i dont know.
    what to say.
    there is so much going on here.
    and a sensitive subject in that it is a retort.
    of sort[s].

    there is, of course, a lot of good sh-it in here. as i/we would expect of you.
    and i want to come back to that.
    because that is what i want to do.

    but i want to discuss a few things first.
    throw a few things at you.
    and see what you think.
    [and that is all it is]

    if i am to be totally honest with you, and i always try to be,
    i did not really take to this at first.
    and that makes me feel bad,
    because it just does.
    but you deserve more.
    and i owe you the truth because you have also been helpful in your commentary.

    i think the problem with this is small
    in that it is details and not bulk,
    but i think it is big.
    too.

    i think this piece is just far too overworked.
    i think that you are undermining the things you are saying by reiterations and moving this and spacing that and dropping this and that and this and that.
    the thing is, you have done this before, and have done t quite a lot, and i think it shows here because i think it feels tired.
    [and so do i]

    to back up my opinions, i have the following:
    'like goodbye was but a reprieve,
    a holiday,
    to sort things out.'
    i can not see how this movement, this spacing that you just apply in the formatting section by typing a few letters before and after, actually helps these lines.
    i cant see what it adds.
    to me, it distracts.
    if you want to break the 'holiday,'
    give it a line on its
    own.
    i would say the same for the following:
    ' everfresh on my mind,
    my lips,
    the tip of my tongue.'
    i would say that the following is totally unnecessary:
    '(for from a different perspective comes a different view)'
    firstly, i think brackets have become overused here and can be used as a shortcut to things that should be said poetically.
    secondly, you are just repeating what is already implied, thus going over your own tracks.
    and this does not show confidence in your writing or your reader.
    that fine line of explained and implicit.
    and it is sometimes only the readers who can point that out, because we see different things when we are writing.
    someone helped me out on just the same thing in my last piece.

    sidewalking.
    again, brackets used as a shortcut:
    '(Choices made before we even met)'
    i think this would work if you had a theme for them. like recalling memories or mind drifting or side notes, but i can t see any here.

    the formatting here:
    'To know that I still wake each morning with Your arms
    wrapped in my mind, '
    and here:
    'as a grain of sand on the beaches that line the ocean that separates us,
    but to me,
    it's what gives me the balance to stand.'
    just gives the eyes r
    m and makes it dizzy-inducing.
    thud distracting us from the words that are pertinent.

    and i would say the same for most of the rest.


    [and i feel that this is a gobfull, and perhaps not the strongest of your analogies:
    'as much a part of me as is the sun part of the day]

    it all just adds to make it quirky and awkward. and it kind of frustrates me because you have great detailing within such as the capitalisation of 'Your' and 'Our' and the following section:
    'reality was but
    my hand on the nape of your neck,
    your eyes erasing the ground and
    escorting me to something higher than this mess of ticking earth.'
    which i think would be really effective without all the distractions.


    this said, i see that this piece is part of something that came before, and so some themes are recurrent. but i think you could have been far more sensitive with your concepts, and made it individual to that piece, not a style that you adopt.

    if this were just to revert back to a 'regular,' structure, i think the words would come through far more powerfully:

    'How can it be that so many yearshave passed?
    It still feels like
    goodbye was but a reprieve,
    a holiday,
    to sort things out.

    Things have been sorted,
    but like laundry
    another load is always in the making.

    You though, never needed sorting at all.
    You were everclean,
    everfresh on my mind,
    my lips,
    the tip of my tongue.
    You lifted me up and took me to places
    I had been before but never knew were there.


    You opened me up and took from me the good I never knew existed.
    Our world left mor(t)ality behind:
    reality was but
    my hand on the nape of your neck,
    your eyes erasing the ground and
    escorting me to something higher than this mess of ticking earth.

    Ultimately, choices were made,
    or made for us.

    choices made before we even met

    To know that I still wake each morning with Your arms
    wrapped
    in my mind,
    and lay down each night,
    seeing Our dreams in tomorrow
    may very well be as inconsequential to you
    as a grain of sand on the beaches that line the ocean that separates us,
    but to me,
    it's what gives me the balance to stand.

    In my mind, I find you with each passing moment,

    frozenintime,

    still in the shadow cast in the same light
    as the last time
    we
    touched.

    And this is where you will always remain,
    as much a part of me as is the sun part of the day.

    All those things that were Us are again locked away,
    as if photos in a chest in an attic,
    where I stow away on rainy days,
    reminiscing
    of a life that might have been had the sorting been done
    by your me,
    instead of hers.



    Let go of me now.


    You deserve so much more than the ghost of a dream
    that was too weak to speak midnight truth
    to midday reckoning'

    i dont know.
    but to me i was able to read your words for what they really were, and they read better and more genuine to me as i scrolled down and deleted the gaps.

    you do create the romantic.
    the loss.
    and the longing.
    the inadequacies of self versus 'she.'
    and this is what i want to say i liked.
    i liked the details in the gaps in the lines at the end of your piece.
    and the analogy.
    and the prelude to the ending.
    and the fact that it was not the end.

    but i just had too look to hard.

    take care
    on1eday.co.uk


    | Posted on 2005-03-16 00:00:00 | by on1eday.co.uk | [ Reply to This ]



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