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    dots Submission Name: the Socratic Methoddots

    Author: uncreaTED
    Elite Ratio:    4.86 - 58/69/24
    Words: 140
    Class/Type: Poetry/Serious
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       In my quest for knowledge I have circled the globe in quest of answers. I've found wisdom in the strangest of places:
    During peeks behind the scenes in the Himalayas;
    At the bottom of minds in the Ozarks;
    An Halls of Learning, where one Prof of Modern English Lit would inhale an entire cigarette in one inhalation; then exhale puffs of smoke to terminate each gem of sapience he did bestow during the hour that followed.
    In post-grad seminars, where my mentor Dr.Theo would flaunt ethics on discourses of them.

    It is this last experience I wish to share with others, less fortune than myself perhaps, who have been deprived of such opportunities!

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    dotsthe Socratic Methoddots

    the Socratic Method

    Prof Theodore Humpen-Fukker VI
    oft began his discourses
    with a characteristic soliloquy
    in which he would pose
    a rhetorical query:

    “What is meant by the Socratic Method?"

    After a controlled pause,
    the esteemed Doctor
    would put down
    his zircon encrusted
    silver coke spoon and frown.

    "You can spoon feed
    a student with
    the answers they lack
    or you can hand them a shovel
    and suggest places to attack.”

    “One method builds foundations
    on which wisdom and character
    can be built;
    the other leads to
    addictions and guilt!"

    He'd then refill
    his spoon
    swivel to share
    a 180 degree


    With glassier eyes, Dr. Ted
    would then open the floor
    to the undergrad rabble,
    a brook of discussion
    would flow and babble.

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    Well I can't beleive with all these comments no-one has picked up on what i thought was obvious and instead have criticised you for your rhything. Oh well - to each their own. I guess you had this one posted on your old handle and received better commentry then, one can only assume.

    Anyway, let me start by saying that i really like your rhyming poems; they're enevitably shorter (which suits my waning attention span) and always witty and humorous.

    But the beautiful and clever art of this poem is the base level irony. I'm talking about the parallel between the question and answer method (as described by others), the statement that:

    "You can spoon feed
    a student with
    the answers they lack
    or you can hand them a shovel
    and suggest places to attack.”

    and the coke, which Prof. Theo liberally spoon feeds up his own nose:

    “One method builds foundations
    on which wisdom and character
    can be built;
    the other leads to
    addictions and guilt!"

    Doesn't anyone else find that hilarious!

    Anyway I got a good gut laugh out of it. Now where did i put my rolled up fifty and visa card?

    | Posted on 2005-09-20 00:00:00 | by Abzy | [ Reply to This ]
      Hiya Mu-Wi Ted

    You know what? Even though this is a bit different, I think I rather enjoyed reading this-the Socratic Method. A simple read really. I remember on my first days on elite I would stumble upon of your pieces and become intimitated by your vast vocubulary and my lack of words. But now Im entertained by your Buddha thoughts and other ideas that you write about. You write pieces that allow the reader to go into full depth and analyze each line-word for word. I think the first piece I finally commented on was "Naked Illusion?", I analyzed the picture and title rather than the poem itself...lol I cant believe I did that. Anyways to the poem.
    I enjoyed reading this. Rather than telling the students the answer-giving them the spooon, he digs a hole and allows a discussion to follow. The Socratic Method, just like dreamweaver said, a question and answer sequence. However I disagree with her comment, I do not believe you wasted your time on such words. What can I say besides that I like it.

    Later Days
    | Posted on 2005-09-11 00:00:00 | by fiery_eyes | [ Reply to This ]
      I went to your page and found out it's you..Ted. And I was just aiming to protect you.

    Gee, I was going to go tell that you had been copied. No, I'm not usually a cop, but this sort of thing really gets me angry.
    Best of luck!

    | Posted on 2005-09-10 00:00:00 | by nansofast | [ Reply to This ]
      This poem looks seriously similar to someone else's on the site.
    I have no doubt you've done your homework in terms of reading and learning. However, even if we do not copy someone's piece word for word, the essence of creating is the central idea. And this central idea has been lifted, I'm fairly certain.

    I can name the poet, too. Maybe the others here felt a rage, but didn't know the source it was coming from.

    Plagiarism is a very serious matter here, I would hate to think someone is lifting ideas from my page. After all we do this because we love it..right?

    | Posted on 2005-09-10 00:00:00 | by nansofast | [ Reply to This ]
      First I would like to say to UnspokenDreamer that their comment was unnecicary. It was very good and very inlightening even though it didn't tell me about the whateverthatthingywas. It was a good story/poem true or not it was creative and amusing. I found it well written and I liked the imagery you used as well as the language. It was good. I really liked it.
    | Posted on 2005-09-09 00:00:00 | by Raineyes | [ Reply to This ]
      You wasted a lot of time trying to sound intelligent on this one, and then by the time you actually got to a poetic sense, you merely quoted others and had no point to the poem. The socratic method is simple, it is a question and answer sequence, in which the questioner already knows the answer, he simply wants to prove to the other person that they too know the answer. Socrates would ask questions that fit in a pattern to enlighten the person being questioned, never giving them more information, only arranging their current understanding in such a way to show them a new light to life. And for this they killed him. Though his final words were, "Death is not to be feared, death is to be welcomed." Pretty ballsy. If you ask me, socrates was a stud.

    | Posted on 2005-09-09 00:00:00 | by UnspokenDreamer | [ Reply to This ]
      I don't know, I think I agree with Tom. You have the right ideas in your poem and it could be amusing, but your words and rhyme are tripping you up on this one, which made it unclear, borderline distracting. I didn't get the sniff either. It was just out of place. However, the metaphor of the discussion to a babbling brook works; I just had a Socratic seminar this morning in English and it flowed in that same way. Keep working on it.
    | Posted on 2005-09-09 00:00:00 | by themime | [ Reply to This ]

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