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    Author: screams
    Elite Ratio:    5.96 - 433/386/92
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    How far can we stretch her on billboards?
    So we cannot avert our eyes
    Her cunt swells like a piggy bank
    More for her allure
    I sold my soul for a dollar more
    And got a straighter face in return




    Submitted on 2005-10-21 01:23:09     Terms of Service / Copyright Rules
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      I'm shallow.

    I'm confused.

    I'm lost.

    Educate me. I guess I missed the point that you were going after, and it seems as thought I am the only one who missed it.

    Women being objectified? Sexual images in the media? Mother?

    I am very sorry that I do not understand this. You have rave reviews from those posting before me, so don't take it to heart. I may just be sheltered a tad more than need be.
    | Posted on 2008-07-16 00:00:00 | by Celeste J. Bell | [ Reply to This ]
      Hey Screams,

    So many others have said so much about "mother" that I completely agree with (and some that I'm not so on board with). But I wanted to let you know that I thought this piece is, in a word, 'awesome'!

    Now, I think I've told you before that I'm not a huge fan of shorter poems, and the reason I'm not is because shorter pieces often feel a bit 'surfacy' to me. Well, that is just not the case with "mother". From the title to your last word, it is so all-encompassing without losing the knotty and interconnected message (which so many others have already commented on).

    In short, I found this work to be very powerful, lending itself to real debate (one of those poems that my senior english teacher would set us for an analytical essay ... although she might hesitate over your third line lol). And I also have to say that "mother" left me with an outraged (in a good, thoughtful way), sad and understanding feeling - what a feat, to make me feel so much in only several lines.

    If I have one comment to make (and this is mainly because I'm trying really hard to be constructive etc.), it would be that maybe you could experiment with the format. One of the many things I love about your work is the way you make format a part of (and integral to) your poems. I don't really think there is anything to improve on in "mother", but (knowing you) you will probably find a way to in the format. ;)

    Great write Screams !

    Cheers,
    ~TD
    | Posted on 2005-12-05 00:00:00 | by TD | [ Reply to This ]
      Hrm. I reread it just a second time. And although it is in someways sarcastic. It is quite sad too. I didn't read the title which should have let me know before hand about the real meaning to this poem.

    Either that or I am just dumb.

    Hrm, again the societal image of the model mother is what you are talking about (I think). I will not go line by line and try to figure this or that out-all in all because it is just what it is I think.

    Another hint at Vanity though. You are the writer who makes a statement about what is the social norms or-more so the nature of women who believe that there is a strict defined model for what is 'right' in a sense for a mother to be?

    What they do is what you have writen about. You are the one who seems to be criticising them but then in the end you do the same. Vanity?

    Hrm and in the first line you ask when translated - "to what extent?" and/or "is there an end?" to of course 'postitution' on a moral level.

    The last line too I have to say can be used as a "straighter" face- your face, relating to cosmetics and how your face is 'straighter' not just physically, but straighter as in it Conforms to what is expected.

    NOT only that.

    The "straighter face" also can be used to reflect the fact of those who seem to judge you. It is not a frown anymore.- and their inability to smile well.

    THey are you. You are them.

    It is both their faces and yours that becomes straighter-

    as if you speak about a collective whole where you're just a drone or clone of everyone else- or atleast you are becoming to be ina sense
    Since you are the one who is criticising at first.

    Not all of this of course is probably intended and I may be wrong in my interpretation

    But that of course is not the point.

    There is a complexity unmatched by smaller poems such as yours. This poem is quite vague on the level that you do not explain in full detail your thoughts and we are here just to merely try to imagine what the subtelties are hinting at-so that we might better understand.

    but that might of course be intended as secrecy? and in turn allows for Alot of ways in which the whole thing could branch out to mean for one thing in particular.


    Great, Great Poem.

    Yet.
    | Posted on 2005-12-04 00:00:00 | by Dr.Strangelove | [ Reply to This ]
      This is quite sarcastic lol. Even if it intended Not to be-it is definitely making me laugh.

    God. No need to say anything here.

    "Her cunt swells like a piggy bank"

    Jesus that is amazing.
    It may not be pretty, it may not be awe-inspiring

    but damn.
    that imagery is just. AHHH too perfect.. its like.. the is the Exact I mean perfect - CLONE LIKE copy of what you were describing.. Jesus this pure gold.

    Yet.
    | Posted on 2005-12-04 00:00:00 | by Dr.Strangelove | [ Reply to This ]
      hey hey

    I just wanted to point out that , contrary to 999, i think the title is essential to the poem. the various associations to mother that comes to mind while reading the lines , I think, is part of what makes this little poem so big.

    ..This image of paternity, fertility ..origin .. nursing .. so on so forth .. with all the opposing images that go with this selection of 'mother clichés is give to us as a product. Not just a product but one that is forced on us like an invasive subliminal message that burns into your unconcious retina .. I get an image of an airbrushed mother in shiny coardboard supported by some mass media logo .

    if this wasnt enough of an impact on my cones and rods .. a swelling cunt is introduced into the image .. there is something infested .. malignant .. pathological about this whole image .. and it made me smile and and slightly frown in disust at the same time .. not at the message .. that is what the smile is about .. not at being given the image .. but the truth in the image ... what I mean to say is .. How true it is .. that We Do have such offensive things to ourselves .. as a naked swollen mother cunt stretched out on billboards .. that we are so desencitised to that we have actively neglected these symbols and signals .. so used to averting our eyes that we don't even notice them anymore

    ...Your final lines just seems to point out sos damn clearly how pointless this mediocre polishing of [censored]ed up ethics and personal philosophies inherited by a bunch of half-lifes who tries to shape us with their cardboard fists ..

    ..lerbley

    miao

    christian
    | Posted on 2005-11-04 00:00:00 | by x-ianhoyskolt | [ Reply to This ]
      I don’t quite see how the title relates to anything to do with a mother. is it an implication we are consumer children? I would have chosen “consumer harlotry” maybe you didn’t want to give it away that easy. good points though “her c**t smells like a piggy bank” that is wonderfully spirited description. “more for her allure” I take it more racy the better the magnetism? anyhow nice work here it point is well illustrated, sex sells and since it does people will use it shamelessly however I don’t shame such things, for I think violence is much worse wars and whatnot. I’d rather have an oversexed society than a fighting, gun toting, crime ridden place that it has become. well that’s my two cents maybe you’ll toss them back and that’s ok too ,

    ~mike
    | Posted on 2005-10-23 00:00:00 | by inspirit999 | [ Reply to This ]
      Hmm, very succinct... it carries a lot of weight behind the few words you have employed here.

    It's a norm in Westernized society for women to be portrayed in media as perfectly proportioned sex objects... but it's so damn plastic and just focuses on outer aesthetics, rather than inner beauty.

    It's something which really grates on my nerves, and as a result, I watch maybe one hour of television a week because of all the overhyped Hollywood bullsh.it that is on - to me, it's a 'useless information plague' of sorts. It's all about glamour and fashion which is complete bollocks in the long run. But it's so enthralling at the same time, which is why people get addicted to wanting that in their lives somehow.... even down to emulating them or following their 'advice'.

    Sorry I went off on a tangent here. I'm just writing down what this makes me think of. I hate those damn billboards... they make you look because that's all there is to do when you're stuck in sh.itty dead-locked traffic in the city.

    This makes me think of... fashion parasites and media whores. Wow, I like that phrase... I must remember to include that somewhere lol. Thanks for the inspiration Miss Screams.

    Now where's my blue velvet pants?

    Jase
    | Posted on 2005-10-21 00:00:00 | by alteredlife | [ Reply to This ]
      Ok. . .ummm. . .I'm going to guess that that's who women are in societies eyes. The words you used were excellent. . .But you need more. . .shortness is good sometimes but that's like to short. It didn't give enough. It left me confused. The title is mother yet it's about a sexual portraying of women (I'm guessing). I would suggest adding some and possibly changeing the name.
    | Posted on 2005-10-21 00:00:00 | by Raineyes | [ Reply to This ]
      I guess you are talking about how women are portrayed as either one of two types in the mass media - ten seconds before sex and ten seconds after sex. I slip in and out of western and eastern cultures on occassion and one thing I have noticed is that in the west there is no respect for the words "mother" and "wife", only "girlfriend". And the result is that warm friendly paradise like atmosphere you see generated in lots of different places in the westernm world -lol - Good caption for a title. I think a poem is good if the title suggests something and the poem suggests something else which gives a different focus on the title, but coming from you I was kind of expecting something like this.

    Anyway to the poem ... I like the first line stretched out of all proportion like some perfect beast on heat that you just cannot avoid.

    The third line was a bit abrasive to my sensabilities but I think you thrive on reactions like that from your audience -lol

    And so you get sold on it like everyone else. There are so many ways to see the last line - Sold to look more cosmetically redefined, or the straight face means that once again that you slip in to illusion once more and lose your wrath as you become enamoured to buy whatever the supermodel is selling.

    Anyway gender issues are a real melting pot in the west but i think the main reason is that real men and real women disappeared a long time ago.

    PS -thanks for the fav add. What are you researching - must be something related to cultural studies or maybe you are studying advanced salon techniques at a hair dressing college -lol
    | Posted on 2005-10-21 00:00:00 | by kanu | [ Reply to This ]


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